Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

I feel like gluten, like so many fads before it, is another scapegoat/excuse for people to point the finger at for not being where they'd like to be inside and out, with minimal effort required. "So that's the reason I'm fat/fatigued/lazy/stupid." Never has food been more of a niche market than today.

[Trozzle]

While I'm definitely not coeliac at all myself, I can still say with some certainty that wheat based products definitely cause me some minor irritation and bloating regardless. Minor, but definitely there.

[triggerhappy]

Everything has gone to shit my end.

Body didnt feel good food or muscle wise so had a break for 10 days. Eating what ever and no training at all.

First time in years i have done this

Day before i was meant to start back got the worst food poisoning i have ever had. I literally feel like my face has been jumped on from the strain of throwing up. This was friday and still sore

Seriously look and feel like i have never trained a day in my life.

Might have to go to the dr still cant stomach propper food or meals or i just feel like im going to throw up again due to stomach shrinking i guess.

Hope i bounce back soon. This last year has been some of the best progress i have made

[Birds]

Had that for 3 months last year^

Lost so much weight and muscle, ended up looking pretty shredded though just cause of ridiculously low body fat. It all came back reasonably quickly though, once I got healthy again. If you've been training for years your body will remember easily

[triggerhappy]

Yeah hopefully. I know a lot of it is in my head at the moment.

Not going to jump on the scales at all i know that will be worse for me. Just want to get back to eating properly and some light training in the next few days

[L33SH]

Just deadlifted for the first time in 7 months! Still injured so just did light, but happy

[jangles]

While I'm definitely not coeliac at all myself, I can still say with some certainty that wheat based products definitely cause me some minor irritation and bloating regardless. Minor, but definitely there.

Did you read the link?

The study shows that its FODMAPS in processed foods, more so than gluten.

Who would of thought that eating lots of processed foods isn't great for your health!

I'm with you birds, I know of people that have had celiac/coeliac for 20 years, lean and fit, or really skinny and sick looking they are. Also know a 120kg overweight bloke that successfully found ways to maintain his weight after being diagnosed at 55.

[triggerhappy]

Back eating a training. Put on a lot of fat from not training and eating shit but i think it was a bit of awakening that i needed a few weeks of the gym.

Last 2 nights have been much more enjoyable in the gym. Pulled up pretty sore hahah But reasonably strong considering

Thw only downside is im down around 94kg first thing in the morning and not lean looking at all. Hopefully rectify this over the next few weeks with small amounts of cardio chucked in

[L33SH]

Fk cardio

[triggerhappy]

My cardio is a slow walk on the treadmill for 20min-30min with t3 hahah

[The Bogan]

My cardio over the last 2 months has been anything from 10 reps and up.

On that I have been playing with my new (I hope my guts hold up) program and apart from my regular morning cardio/ circuit I have allocated Wensday as my boxing circuit day, mostly bag work with skipping, getting a regular sparring partner is proving difficult at work.

I thought more people at work would be keen to punch me in the face, LOL.

Im also doing power cleans twice a week, before deads and squats, 531 style.

I need to work on my strenght as whilst the GVT has been good for recovery my strenght has suffered.

On a side note, work got a new gym complex, whilst it has potential I thought it was funny that the idiots decided that puting the lifting platforms under some stupid smith machines was a good idea.

[L33SH]

My cardio is a slow walk on the treadmill for 20min-30min with t3 hahah

My cardio is weights

Edited April 17, 2015 by L33SH

[-FIGJAM-]

My cardo is oztag. Will get back into Muay Thai when i hit 85kgs to cut back some fat

[The Bogan]

Picked up some futsal shoes to replace my old chucks, they have a hard flat sole.

They seem to be halfway between oly shoes and the thin soled cross fit shoes.

And for $55 dollars they are cheaper than the chucks, the cross fit shoes and the oly shoes.

They seem better than the chucks, much better than every crossfit shoe I looked at, and whilst oly shoes are much better, for the weight I'm throwing around they will surfice and are much more practical as a all rounder.

[Birds]

Have been using this routine for the last few months - only requires you to be in the gym 3 times a week for ~45 minutes.

I've decided the best way to deal with OCD gyming and an odd number of days in the week is to stop thinking in terms of 7 days and instead use two weeks for an even 14 days. I can't stand seeing week long routines that have a strong bias towards any muscle groups, repeating some exercises but not others and never alternating this.

Therefore:

Week 1

Monday - squats, pullups

Wednesday - deads, bench

Friday - squats, pullups

Week 2

Monday - deads, bench

Wednesday - squats, pullups

Friday - deads, bench

It feels incredibly balanced and because there are only two exercises in each workout, there is zero overlap. It also feels very good for recovery, both muscle repair and recovery from minor injury, without leaving your muscles too dormant / out of use.

Have never been stronger and (imo) better looking. I did enjoy my slim/athletic 80kg with heaps of definition, but after much bugging from the gf to put on weight, I went on a bit of a bulk with this routine and am now sitting around 88kg. There is still a decent amount of definition (see below), so it's likely a good deal of the weight gain was muscle. The downside of the gain is that, despite being a lot stronger, my power to weight ratio has suffered - I'd need to be benching 132kg for a 1.5 x bw bench again. Bench single is currently 125kg after some volume.

[Birds]

On the side, it's so damn convenient only working out 3 times a week for 45 mins...I see skinny kids at my gym spending half an hour just on curls and pity this, mostly because I used to do it too. I would spend 4-5 days in the gym for an hour and a half each time, doing about 7 exercises a session - such a waste of time.

[r31slpr]

Good stuff birdman, what's your progression like? More reps? Add weight when possible?

[Trozzle]

My cardio is a slow walk on the treadmill for 20min-30min with t3 hahah

T3 hahaha naughty boy

My cardio....well, it's a joint operation

[Birds]

Good stuff birdman, what's your progression like? More reps? Add weight when possible?

I try to increase 1RM where possible and also increase the weight I do for volume sets where possible - these two seesaw off of each other and an increase in one usually sees an increase in the other.

If I can't increase either, I do an extra couple of volume sets or a set of max reps at a low to moderate weight until absolute failure. I also add more food to my diet that night, as I recognise that no increase in strength = probably not eating enough.

The above definition suggests I could easily be eating more than I am, because it's far from a bulking look, but as long as I'm getting gains I don't feel the need to overdo the eating. Just being a little bit in calorie surplus is responsible for the 7-8kg I've put on so far, so If I can get gains and maintain this definition then I'm having my cake and eating it too (literally!).

I also feel much healthier at this level of body fat. Hovering around 9-10% at 80kg, I comparatively didn't have as much energy and got sick easily.

[r31slpr]

Sweet, sounds like it's working well then. What's type of volume are you usually doing? Sets and reps