Gym And Supplement Discussion

[S T A R 3 3]

This is interesting.

The BN stuff basically has zero carbs, if it's the protein powder. One of best ratio (protein vs fillers) on the market.

I certainly don't get bloated when i was using it (been a few months now since ive even trained).

A fair few others are using it too, see what they say...

It's my 2nd batch that I've purchased from them within the past 6 months. I'm thinking my tolerance to particular foods, preservatives or SOMETHING has dissapeared. I dunno.

I got 1kg of Syntrax Matrix which I'll use and see if there are any changes.. Should last me a month.

to be continued..

[R31Nismoid]

Problem is though the BN stuff has basically nothing in it!

That's why it's awesome if you was *just* protein and nothing more

[GTR_JOEY]

International protein "superior whey" has zero fillers or stabilizers...

It's good stuff

[R31Nismoid]

BN is 27g in 30g - 90% Protein

IP SP is 31g in 40g - 77% Protein

So a bit more extras than you'd realise

And when I say that I mean things like Fats, Sugar/Carbs & other stuff. Sometimes they include calcium like IP SP does.

In the end it comes down to your diet and what you need. Some people want as much protein as possible as they get their other stuff elsewhere in the diet etc.

[Trozzle]

The blonde chick is nice too.. she can be the backup if required.

Lou? Yeah she's the gym manager/owner or whatever you'd call it for the place. Apparently she was in my year in highschool - she recognised me and remembered my name, I was like who teh fark are you? I'm stupid lol

[GTR_JOEY]

Like I stated no fillers or stabilizers

6.8% carbs... Which is not a bad thing btw

Little bit of fat/sugar as stated above..also has added Glutimine And other Aminos...

Very good product, defiantly recommend it, actually tells you everything that's in it

People can eat all the protein they want fact is your body is only goin to use so much of it...

People fail to see the value of BCAA and other amino acids, they are just as important

Edited January 3, 2012 by GTR_JOEY

[Tangles]

From what I understand, most beneficial supps are as follows:

1. Whey Protein

2. Creatine Monohydrate

3. Branched chain amino acids (BCAA)

4. Omega 3 fish oil

5. Nitric oxide with caffeine (promotes vascularity, 'pump', and focus)

and obviously water.

[R31Nismoid]

People can eat all the protein they want fact is your body is only goin to use so much of it...

People fail to see the value of BCAA and other amino acids, they are just as important

Well yes, but depends on what you want/need - as I said (twice). It's cheaper than the IP-SP - IF you want a protein only supplement.

The BN stuff has BCAA's in there, feel free to go and read up on it. You'll also see it has even more detailed listing of what is in it as well

[some_cs_student]

Well yes, but depends on what you want/need - as I said (twice). It's cheaper than the IP-SP - IF you want a protein only supplement.

The BN stuff has BCAA's in there, feel free to go and read up on it. You'll also see it has even more detailed listing of what is in it as well

Whey protein contains BCAA's, so in general you would be discussing amounts/forms of it

Personally I don't feel the need to take BCAA's, I've noticed very few lifters I've met actually do anything except a high-protein diet & whey.

[GTR_JOEY]

Depends how cheap you get it for I guess, I get 10 pounds/4.55kg for 140 bucks with free delivery

Yea whey protein has bcaa but you can defiantly benefit from more.

you ll find either people don't take it cause they don't know about it, or have tried it and don't know how and when to take it

or the real big juiced up steroided monkeys that do know about it don't need it cause steroids do a better job then taking legal Aminos...

I'd BCAA are pretty important as they make up a large percentage of muscle tissue lol

Read this u might change ur mind

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/supplements/ingredients/bcaa.html

[GTR_JOEY]

From what I understand, most beneficial supps are as follows:

1. Whey Protein

2. Creatine Monohydrate

3. Branched chain amino acids (BCAA)

4. Omega 3 fish oil

5. Nitric oxide with caffeine (promotes vascularity, 'pump', and focus)

and obviously water.

Wouldn't be putting creatine in front of BCAA

Was talking to a nutrition expert the other day and he reckons those pre workouts with caffeine have more cons then pros in terms of strength training

[R31Nismoid]

Read this u might change ur mind

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/supplements/ingredients/bcaa.html

Change my mind about what exactly?

[GTR_JOEY]

Whey protein contains BCAA's, so in general you would be discussing amounts/forms of it

Personally I don't feel the need to take BCAA's, I've noticed very few lifters I've met actually do anything except a high-protein diet & whey.

^^^^ not feeling the need to take extra aminos

Edited January 4, 2012 by GTR_JOEY

[Dani Boi]

I would use a BCAA supplement if cutting, that's all though.

Edited January 4, 2012 by Dani Boi

[some_cs_student]

^^^^ not feeling the need to take extra aminos

Your quoting me, not Ash

I'd prefer to read this article: http://blog.metaboliceffect.com/page/2/

I'm just saying its not required, there's nothing wrong with supplementing. Unless your wasting too much $$$ on supplementing, which most beginners do after a visit to GNC (that includes me quite a long time ago ).

[GTR_JOEY]

I would use a BCAA supplement if cutting, that's all though.

Your going to have to explain that to me cause that makes no sense at all

[GTR_JOEY]

Sweet cheers for the article.. Didnt realize the effects that BCAA's have on weight loss

Still interesting though cause as ive been taking them for quite a while now and I've been stacking on the weight..( Up from 86 to 96 in the last 6 months)... Obviously results vary on diet and types of training

I'd say a couple of that 10kg is fat I do admitt but I'm getting stronger so I'll be sticking with it as weight gain and strength is may goal atm, if I get the strength without the weight even better

Way I see it is that if it helps with recovery and gives you good lean muscle it's worth taking

Edited January 4, 2012 by GTR_JOEY

[France]

I have made great gains in the gym and the ONLY supplements i felt the need to buy is a good whey protein isolate and creatine monohydrate... Anything else is not worth the money in my opinion..

[Trozzle]

I've made phenomenal gains in the gym only using anabolic steroids and speed.

[Birds]

I've made phenomenal gains outside of the gym only using synthol.