Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

drink more water... can we change the topic now please?

Please

[GTR_JOEY]

Agreed, make a new thread on BO if ur that worried

[Birds]

Just tried Ultimate Nutrition ISO Mass with water instead of milk...much better! Mixes better, tastes better, less bloaty, less fat. Win!

[No Crust Racing]

Well for those playing along at home, more carbs before workout + more water through the day has taken my sweat smell back to what it was so no more stinky Dan.

[TM7GTR]

lol what's with all the sweat talk? in other news, anybody have some tips on how to not lose weight during illness? I've had two gainer protein shakes today (50grams protein, 70grams carbs per serve) already, and plan on having another before bed. May be overkill, but i'd rather overdo it than under-do it. P.S. Eating solid meals is ridiculously hard

[HEKT1K]

I want to start a build thread but I am too small

[GTR_JOEY]

lol what's with all the sweat talk? in other news, anybody have some tips on how to not lose weight during illness? I've had two gainer protein shakes today (50grams protein, 70grams carbs per serve) already, and plan on having another before bed. May be overkill, but i'd rather overdo it than under-do it. P.S. Eating solid meals is ridiculously hard

i guess try and eat 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight and keep up your carb levels anyway possible...

when ur body is sick i imagine alot of energy is spent fighting off the illness so keep eating as much as u can i guess... if i couldnt eat solids id be smashing milk shakes haha

[some_cs_student]

Well for those playing along at home, more carbs before workout + more water through the day has taken my sweat smell back to what it was so no more stinky Dan.

Interesting, I've increased my carb levels a little as my protein to carb ratio was extremely high for a while

[God_speed]

lol what's with all the sweat talk? in other news, anybody have some tips on how to not lose weight during illness? I've had two gainer protein shakes today (50grams protein, 70grams carbs per serve) already, and plan on having another before bed. May be overkill, but i'd rather overdo it than under-do it. P.S. Eating solid meals is ridiculously hard

Most of what I've read about what you should eat when sick (depends on what you've got though) revolves around BRAT - bananas, rice, apples and toast, and stuff like that; especially if you've got the runs. Unfortunately that's a fair bit of carbs and you'd want some protein in there as well (as you've hinted at).

I think the protein shakes aren't a bad idea, but lay off the milk if you usually use that as a mixer. I just mix my powder with water so that's fine. I've been told to stay away from dairy when I've been sick as it can help feed bacteria in the gut. Sugar is also a definite no no as it'll feed the lurgy as well.

I'd also try and eat a lot of vegetables (if it's hard to eat solid meals, boil em up till they're softer) as the veg is like very light carbs, will act as fibre and help to slow down peristalsis (movement as part of digestion in the gut) and of course they are very nutritious...

Veggies are great for that reason even when you're not sick; they stave off your apetite which is great if you're on a cutting routine.

And I think most of what you'll lose is water weight through dehydration, so you should get most of that back when you get better. Even so, must keep your water intake up when you're sick to help flush out all the crap. If the water is luke warm it will also help to relax a sore throat.

Edited March 5, 2012 by God_speed

[God_speed]

Kind of on that note, have just been trying Universal Torrent as my new post-workout. It seems to be delivering the goods, except it does have 52g of carbs and 20g protein, theory being that (fast-absorbed) carbs are more important immediately post WO than protein. If I have GENR8 Vitargo during my WO as well, that's another 70g of carbs taking my total intra / post WO to 120g of carbs! Bit much on a cutting diet.

Seems to be better using only ~2 scoops of the Torrent instead of 3, and maybe 1 scoop of Vitargo instead of 2.

[Birds]

lol what's with all the sweat talk? in other news, anybody have some tips on how to not lose weight during illness? I've had two gainer protein shakes today (50grams protein, 70grams carbs per serve) already, and plan on having another before bed. May be overkill, but i'd rather overdo it than under-do it. P.S. Eating solid meals is ridiculously hard

If it's just a cold/flu, don't worry too much about losing weight when sick, you will gain it all back again in the 2-3 days of wellbeing after you get better. More important than food is to keep up your water intake, even more of it than normal, as you need to flush your system of the bad stuff and spending all day in bed can be very dehydrating. Take some Vitamin C tablets too.

If it's muscle mass you're concerned about losing, there's nothing you can do about that, short of going to the gym while sick, which can reduce the effect of your immune system. Better off taking a week off and coming back to it - the sessions will be tougher but I'd be surprised if you can't lift what you normally do. When I get a cold, at the first sign of it, I hit bed and sleep/drink (water!) nonstop until the worst of it is over. Usually pass the nausea/headache stage by 24-48 hours.

I want to start a build thread but I am too small

If you build it, they will come.

Seriously though, that's a bit of a contradiction. The reason I don't have a build thread is because I've reached most of my goals

[Tangles]

With my Uni workload unfortuantely my gymwork has taken a backseat. Week prior to Uni went 6x, 1st week Uni 3x, this week 0 but will make sure I get in wed/fri morning.

Just not sleeping, ie a few hrs a night, like normal. *sigh

Its just no where near enough to be 'on-song' for a weights session early the next morning then a day & evening of study. Knees are sore with all the walking Ive got to do around (2) campus plus lugging the backpack full of heavy textbooks, which really puts a strain on my kneejoints, and during the middle of the night all I can think of is Anatomy & Physiology questions and answers.... Shut Up Brain!

[God_speed]

With my Uni workload unfortuantely my gymwork has taken a backseat. Week prior to Uni went 6x, 1st week Uni 3x, this week 0 but will make sure I get in wed/fri morning.

Just not sleeping, ie a few hrs a night, like normal. *sigh

Its just no where near enough to be 'on-song' for a weights session early the next morning then a day & evening of study. Knees are sore with all the walking Ive got to do around (2) campus plus lugging the backpack full of heavy textbooks, which really puts a strain on my kneejoints, and during the middle of the night all I can think of is Anatomy & Physiology questions and answers.... Shut Up Brain!

That sucks.

Get a skateboard? Mate just got one recently, novice to begin with but reckons he's improving and helps to fly from A to B short distances (e.g. across campus).

If the gym is too far from home / uni, try and find a park that has some gym apparatus, or even a playground section! Do some pushups (incl incline, which means raising your feet; if there's a swing you can put your feet up on that which will also work on your stabilising core muscles), chin ups, monkey bars, etc. This would act as a good break for you, and also get you some fresh air and endorphins which would actually help to sustain you with all the brain work

[some_cs_student]

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Its just no where near enough to be 'on-song' for a weights session early the next morning then a day & evening of study. Knees are sore with all the walking Ive got to do around (2) campus plus lugging the backpack full of heavy textbooks, which really puts a strain on my kneejoints, and during the middle of the night all I can think of is Anatomy & Physiology questions and answers.... Shut Up Brain!

Just FYI, my knee tendonitis appears to be cured by stretching. The only problem is I have to stretch *daily*, if I miss more than 2 days I start getting pain again. This happened when hiking overseas, weight lifting just speeds it up a little

I'm not sure of the name of the stretch, it involves resting your foot on a 45degree angle (approx) against something and then straightening your leg and attempting to lean forward. The stretch occurs in the lower leg muscles but appears to stop my knee pain completely (until I forget to stretch for a couple days ).

[TM7GTR]

After drinking 5 bottles of water yesterday the worst of the flu is gone, now just to blow out all the yellow snot . To the guy talking about starting a build thread, how small is small? There's always someone out there who's smaller/bigger than you so why bother comparing (this also isn't a bodybuilding forum so you'll get nothing but support)? I used to be a twig at 182cm, 60kg. Worked at it a little over a year, now 82kg. You would be surprised at how quickly you can gain muscle.

[Birds]

Muhahaha I was 63kg @ 188cm

Agree with Tom, except I don't think many people at all, anywhere, would give you crap about a build thread or going to the gym if you were skinny. They'd definitely be in the minority. From my experience people are happy to help when they see other people wanting to change their body image - as long as you aren't going about reaching your goals in a way that displeases them lol. I love it when I see a fat person running along a footpath, it's massively inspirational!

[Dani Boi]

After drinking 5 bottles of water yesterday the worst of the flu is gone, now just to blow out all the yellow snot . To the guy talking about starting a build thread, how small is small? There's always someone out there who's smaller/bigger than you so why bother comparing (this also isn't a bodybuilding forum so you'll get nothing but support)? I used to be a twig at 182cm, 60kg. Worked at it a little over a year, now 82kg. You would be surprised at how quickly you can gain muscle.

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If it was quick everybody would do it!

[Birds]

How much of your 22kg gain would you estimate to be muscle?

[God_speed]

Good way to find out is by getting a DEXA scan (essentially an x-ray with body composition results).

It's good to get a benchmark figure before you plan on doing a particular routine for the year for example.

I got one done in Sydney at MeasureUp (was $85 for just the scan or $150 for a consultation) but there's one in Hawthorn for you Melbourne boys as well.

Sydney - MeasureUp

Melbourne - BodyScan

I ended up being 13.3% body fat, which I was reasonably happy with, but room to improve...

It'll tell you individual mass and composition of limbs as well. Scan itself took about 5 minutes flat.

[HEKT1K]

I'm 63kg and 174cm.

Build thread it is then.