Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

Thinkig of something like this

http://www.cyber-market.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=58&products_id=234&osCsid=a39fb36d494f4a40452a35148e4488df

and adding this

http://www.cyber-market.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=223&osCsid=a39fb36d494f4a40452a35148e4488df

And some of these

http://www.cyber-market.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=331&osCsid=a39fb36d494f4a40452a35148e4488df

Thoughts on price/quality etc?

Better options?

[-FIGJAM-]

id get an adjustable bench so you can do incline and or decline.

dips are a good idea as well. would also be interested to see their pulley system as it could be worth a look at.

quality and price i dont know about.

[No Crust Racing]

Thought about that but I have an adjustable now and only ever do flat bench.

[Birds]

I'm like Birds

[No Crust Racing]

[On Edge]

lol ^^^^

[GTR_JOEY]

I would be inclined not to listen to what the side of a protein container says about serving sizes...

of course they are goin to say "take 3 scoops" 3 times a day. They are trying to sell the crap.

figure out how much protein u need a day, usually 1 gram for every pound of body weight (kg x2.2) then use the protein to fill in the gaps between meals, thats why its a "supplement"

Theres no use having a 100 grams of protein in one hit, it needs to spread out through the day

[God_speed]

I would be inclined not to listen to what the side of a protein container says about serving sizes...

of course they are goin to say "take 3 scoops" 3 times a day. They are trying to sell the crap.

figure out how much protein u need a day, usually 1 gram for every pound of body weight (kg x2.2) then use the protein to fill in the gaps between meals, thats why its a "supplement"

Theres no use having a 100 grams of protein in one hit, it needs to spread out through the day

Good point. As with any information you have to consider the source!

I've found 2 scoops of Torrent is enough for me, not the 3 prescribed, especially as I often take Vitargo during the session, so that'd be way too many carbs when taken together.

[eightsixboy]

Hey if you guys are looking for alot of info or tips check out nick wrights channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/scondore

or Matt Ogus, who is prob one of the best naturals Ive seen

http://www.youtube.com/user/flexforall2

[Dani Boi]

you dont need to take protein spaced out over the day just like you dont need to take caesin before you go to bed.

[GTR_JOEY]

Haha nice statement

so what's your reasoning?

No one has to do shit! It's wether or not u want the results

Edited March 19, 2012 by GTR_JOEY

[Dani Boi]

because your body digests x amount of protein per hour regardless of how much you give it.

[NickR33]

god damned OS trips... just got back from Thailand for a friends wedding... 10 days spent drinking and eating nonstop and I feel like garbage... fat garbage... just a note, flopping around in a pool/ocean cannot possibly burn off 8 litres of booze and enough Pad Thai to feed every starving child in Africa...

f**k you Ectos...

grass is always greener hey... hate having to eat like a medieval orphan but at the same time like it when people stop what they're doing to watch you lift

goal for this year is to have both... look and feel lean while lifting enough iron to affect the earths gravitational pull... after 6 weeks of good work I've fallen off the tracks... weaksauce... time to put down the beer and open a can of harden the f**k up

[TM7GTR]

because your body digests x amount of protein per hour regardless of how much you give it.

So you prefer to load a ton of protein in one meal, and piss out 80% of it instead?? It's not hard to space your protein out over the course of the day.

Why wouldn't you take a slow release protein source before bed? Your catabolic period overnight must be quite significant

...I see no logic here

[GTR_JOEY]

So you prefer to load a ton of protein in one meal, and piss out 80% of it instead?? It's not hard to space your protein out over the course of the day.

Why wouldn't you take a slow release protein source before bed? Your catabolic period overnight must be quite significant

...I see no logic here

Yea i have no idea what his argument is

[-FIGJAM-]

anyone here tried doing slow reps? get the set to last near 70seconds. I have been giving it a go and cannot lift near the same amount of weight.

example is for bench 3seconds down, at at the bottom and 1 second up.

recommend giving it a go for a change.

[God_speed]

I find slow reps or negatives are both good if you've got a minor injury or are feeling flat and can't push a heavier weight; you can still get an awesome workout while also changing it up a bit and keep the body guessing.

On the protein argument I've also read that those of us who take a lot of additional protein need to make sure we are getting plenty of calcium intake (i.e. through milk, or other sources, in other words check your protein supplement to make sure there is calcium in there as well). This is because the body uses calcium for protein synthesis. You don't want a calcium deficiency.

[Dani Boi]

So you prefer to load a ton of protein in one meal, and piss out 80% of it instead?? It's not hard to space your protein out over the course of the day.

Why wouldn't you take a slow release protein source before bed? Your catabolic period overnight must be quite significant

...I see no logic here

I never said I loaded up on protein... no shit it isn't hard to space it out over the day, I just said you didn't have to. You don't piss out protein...

Why wouldn't I take "slow release" protein before bed? I dunno maybe the fact that by the time I goto fkn bed I've already hit my protein macros for the day so there's a shitload that will be released over the night.

[TM7GTR]

I never said I loaded up on protein... no shit it isn't hard to space it out over the day, I just said you didn't have to. You don't piss out protein...

Why wouldn't I take "slow release" protein before bed? I dunno maybe the fact that by the time I goto fkn bed I've already hit my protein macros for the day so there's a shitload that will be released over the night.

Dude I suggest you do some research before posting...

"When a high dietary protein intake is consumed, there is an increase in urea excretion, which suggests that amino acid oxidation is increased.."

It depends on the types of protein you're consuming, unless you've been consuming a lot of slow-release proteins throughout the day, your overnight release won't last nearly as long as consuming something like casein before bed (4-6 hours release).

In response to slow reps, I always lower the weight slowly, and explode on the way up. Muscle fibres tear on the eccentric phase (shortening phase), so for example lowering the weight during a bicep curl is more important than raising it.

While on this topic, has anyone here gotten a friend to push down (encourage the negative phase of the lift) on a bar, etc. while you try to resist? It's like super negatives lol, crazy hypertrophy results

[GTR_JOEY]

Yea I do it for preacher curls. Get your mate to pull down after a few reps and spot it back up