Gym And Supplement Discussion

[God_speed]

While on this topic, has anyone here gotten a friend to push down (encourage the negative phase of the lift) on a bar, etc. while you try to resist? It's like super negatives lol, crazy hypertrophy results

Yep, when bench pressing on a Smith. Was crazy sore afterwards.

[NickR33]

decided to push myself at the gym last night to get back into it... 100 squats with 70kg, broken up into 4 sets of 25... brutal

then I saw this and felt like a giant vagina

[Birds]

Not to detract anything from that monster, but how much TUT do you guys devote to squats? I go much, much slower than this guy...is it more taxing to go faster or slower? I would think the latter, given you don't have the elasticity/spring helping you out on return. I think if I was to go as fast as this guy, I could probably do more weight but would end up with some pretty bad technique. Is there an explosive benefit to doing it this fast?

[GTR_JOEY]

I imagine there is more benefit from going down slow.. Stopping, then exploding up

[Birds]

Sounds good I might try that. Sounds like you'd need really good technique to pull it off safely, I can see how people might do their lower back or pull a leg muscle coming up quick from a parallel or deeper position.

[NickR33]

yeah I go a lot slower than that... nice and controlled on the way down and then explode up... the weight will dictate how much speed you have on the way up anyway... as long as you don't 'bounce' at the bottom I think your fine

I just think head/chest up, ass/hips back first (before you break at the knees) and weight on the heels

ps. that guy is about 5'2" and 75kg which makes this even more impressive

[TM7GTR]

depends on the type of training too, a faster squat could be related to plyometrics, so for powerlifting they wanna train the explosive phase of the muscle contraction

[Nee-san]

just bought a kilo of BN vanilla. ramping up my training again at the moment, started a new job, couldn't organise time at first.

[GHOSTrun]

Not to detract anything from that monster, but how much TUT do you guys devote to squats? I go much, much slower than this guy...is it more taxing to go faster or slower? I would think the latter, given you don't have the elasticity/spring helping you out on return. I think if I was to go as fast as this guy, I could probably do more weight but would end up with some pretty bad technique. Is there an explosive benefit to doing it this fast?

Is the guy wearing knee wraps in that vid? can see black but not sure if wraps or just sleeves to keep the heat in.

Anyway, strong muscle is a big muscle is a fast muscle. I don't know all the correlations between TUT and bb and hypertrophy etc, but I do know when you've got big weight on the bar you're not there to f**k spiders.

I think you'll find it's the opposite - the slower you go the harder it is to move the weight because you're not recruiting as many fibres during the lift.

Also, stretch shortening cycle (css) does help out the hole (referred to as "the bounce"), thing is this guy is doing 1/4 squats so not much elastic energy being stored.

Best thing is to experiment with yourself and make your own conclusions

[Birds]

ps. that guy is about 5'2" and 75kg which makes this even more impressive

That's fairly light, but squats should be easier for short guys or people with short legs?

[TTT]

they are 1/4 squats at best but he is a BB so it doesn't really matter.

and since he is doing 30 reps, he's not trying to get stronger.. just trying to 'feel da burnnn'

Edited March 22, 2012 by GTST

[GTR_JOEY]

That's fairly light, but squats should be easier for short guys or people with short legs?

5'2 is short as hell and squatting would alot easier for his short little legs.. Not like us guys that are over 6 foot.. Takes twice as long to get to the ground lol

[Birds]

Yer, that and I was thinking longer limbs = more torque/leverage working against you when you bend your long legs.

On the topic of protein powders, do you guys drink them on your off/rest days or just on days you do exercise?

[GTR_JOEY]

I take enough to maintain a steady release of protein for workout and non workout days..

Your body still needs protein for recovery of those muscles for 2-3 days after the workout

[God_speed]

I've got some Musashi 92 on hand which is low-carb and take that if I'm in a rush and don't have time or access to protein from a whole food source on non-workout days.

And then keep the protein supps that have more carbs in them for the WO days.

[TM7GTR]

Finally found out my body fat % is:

Currently 82kg at 13%BF. Also started doing deadlifts again today with 120kg x 3 being my best effort. Time to step it up

[Trozzle]

Finally found out my body fat % is:

Currently 82kg at 13%BF. Also started doing deadlifts again today with 120kg x 3 being my best effort. Time to step it up

Fat flamin mongrel.

lol what gym do you go to?

[Dani Boi]

Dude I suggest you do some research before posting...

"When a high dietary protein intake is consumed, there is an increase in urea excretion, which suggests that amino acid oxidation is increased.."

It depends on the types of protein you're consuming, unless you've been consuming a lot of slow-release proteins throughout the day, your overnight release won't last nearly as long as consuming something like casein before bed (4-6 hours release).

... Believe what you want (supplement packaging) but I'll take advice from a guy who has a bachelor and master of science in nutrition and over 18 years experience.

[GTR_JOEY]

ill take the advice from my mate who is a 120kg of muscle

[The Bogan]

Chicks dig short guys Joey.