Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

I do shave it lol, that's just over a week of growth...such a pain in the ass to maintain

They look alright in the pic but I do have a slight zipper effect with the ab split...it's definitely not perfect but I'm not complaining (have seen some shocking splits in pics on the net). What causes it? Is it strictly genetics or does certain exercise play a part in the split too (always wondered what would happen if your situps had an offset to them lol)?

You're right about the standing pic for showing overall BF or lack of. I might take one, I just like this position because it was sitting like this that I could see (and pinch) what little fat I had left on my lower abdomen prior to cutting - it would disappear when I stood up.

[10 4]

Bit late on the whey discussion but I'm using this and always have since I started gyming.

Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5kg-Whey-Protein-WPI-WPC-Powder-CHOCOLATE-/390411818416?pt=AU_Exercise_Accessories&hash=item5ae65b95b0#ht_3320wt_1270

Vanilla tastes fairly average but choc is decent..

[Trozzle]

Fat f**k Birds.

Kidding, you sexy manbeast.

f**k too homo.

[Husky33]

Sort of related: what is it called when you pick the barbell up off the ground and in one single motion sweep it up to above your head? This is the way I pick up a barbell when I am starting a military press set. I thought it was some variation of the clean/snatch, but on googling these, they all involve a squat movement at some point...I'm literally deadlifting it from the ground to above my head in one.

That's a power snatch.

You don't have to squat for a snatch and a clean. It's not part of the exercise.

The only reason a person would squat was that so they can get lower to get under the bar as they cannot lift the bar high enough, ie alot of weight.

If the olympic lifters could lift the weight to their chest for a clean on the second movement without having to squat, they wouldn't.

If you don't have to squat to catch a clean or a snatch, don't squat.

[-FIGJAM-]

how does everyone find the Bulk Nutrients products? Notice any actual difference when making the switch?

[Birds]

Cheers Husky...at least it has a name now.

how does everyone find the Bulk Nutrients products? Notice any actual difference when making the switch?

Recently switched, so will let you know. So far, loving the taste of chocolate and so easy to mix (shake for 10 seconds).

[TM7GTR]

The split in your abs and how they line up is purely genetic. Having an offset to your sit-ups won't change anything because your six pack (rectus abdominus) is one muscle.

[Birds]

Thought it might be the case!

[Trozzle]

From what I can tell (not lean enough at the moment, soon though...) my abs will be near on perfectly lined up f**k yeah bitches

[Birds]

Looking forward to it Troy...I've watched you grow from ever since you were a small boy.

[tweety bird]

[Trozzle]

Looking forward to it Troy...I've watched you grow from ever since you were a small boy.

not sure if making fun of me

or Birds is one of them pestaphiles.

lol

[10 4]

Well no comments on my eBay whey.. Meh its alright imho..

Also Birds, genetics

[Birds]

eBay whey looks like the same deal as the other pure wheys; guess its just whether you trust it or not. Prolly the same stuff as BN. I found it interesting that BN gets made in NZ, sent to USA and then sold here? If you follow the labels anyway...

Hey it's not all genetics! 280 situps a week and cutting back on the fast foods...

[Trozzle]

eBay whey looks like the same deal as the other pure wheys; guess its just whether you trust it or not. Prolly the same stuff as BN. I found it interesting that BN gets made in NZ, sent to USA and then sold here? If you follow the labels anyway...

Hey it's not all genetics! 280 situps a week and cutting back on the fast foods...

Give weighted leg raises a go (in that weird 'chair' kinda thing, can't recall its proper name). Sure it fatigues the quads and works the psoas a little more than abs, but when you've got an 8kg or more dumbbell hanging from your feet without bending the knees, it does a good job of everything my very basic ab circuit is these weighted leg raises, to that stupid ab crunch machine, to standing oblique crunches (20kg in ONE hand then swap), to 90 second plank. Repeat.

Also how you liking the wood chops Birds? I've been doing them with the cable up a bit higher, then crunching forward more. Takes the back out of the equation a bit and focusses more on obliques.

[Birds]

Still doing them. I change the angle of the cable and the motion half way through to work different parts (lower back, obliques, abs, abductors)...seems to work well. For me woodchops is a no rest exercise so it's a bit of cardio too. Do one side, do another, then step up the weight and start again with no rest! = dead.

[Tangles]

well Uni got on top of me for quite a few months there - back to the beginning

starting again in the morning prior to start of new uni semester, havent been to the gym for 4 months now, not good

must try to find a good middle ground between study and 3 weight sessions a week

enjoyed far too much iced coffee of late

as for 'no rest' - thats how Ive always attacked the weight work, no rest as such (30secs between sets at most, and the walk to a new exercise area is rest enough) to keep the heart rate & sweat up, means you dont need to worry about cardio IMO

[10 4]

^Hey, I took 3 months off cause my wrist was farked (still sort of is..). Uni, football games + training and gym... Its hard... Also the reason why I now skip leg days else I just can't run.

Rest thing - I do rest a fair bit between sets.. Don't usually get sweaty after a weights session..

[Birds]

There is such a thing as too little rest. With buggerall rest between sets you can be achieving the same as doing one set until failure. Your muscles will fatigue and "pump" too much before getting properly worn down. Better off slowly breaking them down over time.

A good test of rest times is if you can push out the same number of reps on your max weight for two sets in a row...if the sets are vastly different then you may need to increase rest time. If they are the same you can decrease rest time until you start to see difference. Somewhere in between is the happy spot! As a general rule though, anywhere from 30-90 seconds depending on exercise is a good timeframe.

[NickR33]

phew, this thread went a bit ghey there for a second... all this talk of chest shaving and abz brah... lol

seriously though, medicine ball throws, kettlebell movements, are good for core strength and if done as a circuit burn fat as well... no need to do endless crunches, leg raises etc IMHO