Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Trozzle]

Daniel, you only use machines because that all they have

Lucky you dont go to clubs with fat old hairy blokes dancing around, because your sex life would suck

You would probably just go to a different club, hey

[Manuel Kasko]

Daniel, you only use machines because that all they have

Lucky you dont go to clubs with fat old hairy blokes dancing around, because your sex life would suck

You would probably just go to a different club, hey

HAHAHA! this is a good way to say it.

Okay going to get a temp membership with the girls next door.

Have I mentioned they are all hawt over at that gym

[TTT]

that should help you get strong or bigger or ripped bro.

[Trozzle]

HAHAHA! this is a good way to say it.

Okay going to get a temp membership with the girls next door.

Have I mentioned they are all hawt over at that gym

Shame you're a raging homosexual bro.

But you've got my number, feel free to pass it on if you feel like it.

[-FIGJAM-]

buy some albuterex..... Chestbrah swears it will make you shredded in time for the next music festival.....

[TM7GTR]

Stereo 2012 brah! I'll see you there

[Trozzle]

buy some albuterex..... Chestbrah swears it will make you shredded in time for the next music festival.....

Gold.

And f**k Tom stop putting attractive girls in your avatar, makes me want to go outside for once.

[TM7GTR]

Sorry Troy, I'll put some hairy men in there for you to drool over next time

[Basti]

nah manny's got that covered

[Mitcho_7]

I have officially decided working tris after shoulders is 80x better then after chest for me. Much better focus on the tris with more weight.

Same thing with hitting bis after chest instead of back.

Anyone else have the same experiences?

[Trozzle]

Sorry Troy, I'll put some hairy men in there for you to drool over next time

Please.

[Birds]

I have officially decided working tris after shoulders is 80x better then after chest for me. Much better focus on the tris with more weight.

Same thing with hitting bis after chest instead of back.

Anyone else have the same experiences?

What are you gauging this by, being able to push more weight? It's a given if your triceps are fresh because you haven't done chest exercises prior to it. Just be careful you don't over-work the muscle groups - I don't know what your workout looks like, but if your tris are "recovering" from chest exercises the previous day, then probably not a good idea to be targeting them the day after on a shoulders day.

There's nothing wrong with the feeling of being able to do less for an isolation exercise because you've already worked that muscle group in a compound exercise in the same workout. The isolation exercise is called a "finisher", so to speak, it's supposed to take whatever you have left in your ancillary muscle groups (bis/tris/forearms etc.).

[Mitcho_7]

What are you gauging this by, being able to push more weight? It's a given if your triceps are fresh because you haven't done chest exercises prior to it. Just be careful you don't over-work the muscle groups - I don't know what your workout looks like, but if your tris are "recovering" from chest exercises the previous day, then probably not a good idea to be targeting them the day after on a shoulders day.

There's nothing wrong with the feeling of being able to do less for an isolation exercise because you've already worked that muscle group in a compound exercise in the same workout. The isolation exercise is called a "finisher", so to speak, it's supposed to take whatever you have left in your ancillary muscle groups (bis/tris/forearms etc.).

Split looks like this:

Shoulders/tris

Back/abs

Legs

Chest/bis

Off

So I have tried to give myself 48 hrs between targeting synergistic muscle groups like back and biceps.

I think my arms are lagging a bit, so I thought I would switch up my split to see if it helps bring them on a bit more.

I can definently move more weight for more reps with the new split, but I expected this. I just hope it will stimulate them differently rather than always training arms in a pre exhausted condition.

[markos]

Shit birds, I better let all those Olympic lifters that squat 3 times a day, 6 days a week that they may be overtraining their quads

FFS

[Trozzle]

Shit birds, I better let all those Olympic lifters that squat 3 times a day, 6 days a week that they may be overtraining their quads

FFS

I think he's specifically talking about your average joe kinda deal, where lifting isn't their life. For people like myself, I don't think my body has enough time to recover for me to hit the same muscles the next day.

[Mitcho_7]

I don't hit the same muscles the next day anyway. The split is designed in a way that I get 48 hrs rest or so for each muscle group.

I will be gauging how I feel after and seeing where I'm at. If I need an extra days rest somewhere I can take it, but I like to try and stick to what is set out.

Edited September 5, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[-FIGJAM-]

i think it depends on how you feel to be honest.

personally I cant stand doing chest and then shoulders a day later and thats all due to the pain i get in my chest, makes it awkward and uncomfortable to do shoulders and I feel i dont do as much as i could and should.

if you think you get a better workout in the way youre doing it now, then by all means continue, there is no 'one size fits all' solution when it comes to working out.

but hey thats my opinion.

[Trozzle]

I bench press and bicep curl.

EVERY DAY.

[-FIGJAM-]

I bench press and bicep curl.

EVERY DAY.

thats why you're so sexy.........

[NickR33]

I think the whole overtraining issue is a little overblown... I used to think this way but it was really just a convenient excuse for me to be lazy... I've just upped my training volume, load and frequency and guess what? I feel better! some of the niggles I had have gone and I'm already feeling faster/stronger... if a muscle group is stiff or sore now I deliberately target it, get some heat into it and more often than not it comes good and I feel better... I've recently been benching 3 x week to try and improve it (didn't used to do it very often) and noticed some irritation in the shoulders... instead of backing off the volume I've just increased the amount of pulling/rear delt work and now my shoulders feel fine

I had a big session last night, truly tried to wreck myself... could barely climb the gyms stairs to go to the toilet... but 30min later I felt great again, energized etc

just my opinion but I think if your just doing legs and back once a week your missing out on getting bigger (if that's your goal)