Gym And Supplement Discussion

[TM7GTR]

Obviously I was being a little harsh about the leg shaving and collars etc.

it's easy and fun to generalise so I do it.

My issue is people who become *insert expert in something or other here* because they thought it would be a good way to make money and went and did a course to get a piece of paper that says they did a course and now know what to do.

My opinion is that it doesn't mean shit that you paid a fee and did some classes and got your cert.

Those people have no interest in making people better.

they have an interest in making money.

those people will always fail.

Nick says his dad is a PT who specialises in helping old folks.

He cares.

he does his job because he wants to see someones life improve... and happens to get paid for it.

But PTs in a gym (most) are there to carry a clipboard and tell self conscious people they are doing great and see you in 2 days etc etc, then NEXT!!!

They spurt what they read in their textbooks written by people who wear lab coats.

I guess PTs are there for the lazy so it makes their existance acceptable.

Kasko - Let me know when you finish your course.

I'll shout you these as a gift.

Couldn't agree more with you on the first point. This is why I'm doing my diploma so I can work with special populations.

My number 1 priority client right now is a lady I train out at an old folks center. She's 75 with numerous serious medical problems, and nothing beats the feeling of knowing I'm trying to improve her quality of life, because in all seriousness, who knows how long clients like these are expected to be around for.

I have huge respect for Nick's dad knowing he does much the same.

I love being serious to other clients though.. If you can't do one damn palms-to-knees crunch on the floor, don't expect me to say you're doing a great job.

I personally wouldn't post in this forum if I thought I knew what to do 100% though. Especially on topics such as powerlifting... it interests me greatly, although I'm not a very strong person myself (need to stray away from the bodybuilding training for a while and try powerlifting)

Do you guys know if boogers get bigger as you get older ?

I'll be damned if I haven't doubled my nose yield over the last five years !

The great mining boom of 2013 ^ ?

[Basti]

Do you guys know if boogers get bigger as you get older ?

I'll be damned if I haven't doubled my nose yield over the last five years !

dunno but i do know that after a good root, i have quite the satisfying crop to harvest. nfi why but i think its to do with the heavy breathing

[TTT]

Depends if you've been using nostril enhancing supplements.

[25GTT]

TM7, how is the Diploma going for you? It is still relatively new in the industry and feel it to be a great progression.

We were consulted some time ago as to what benefits we as employers would like to see as part of the progression into a Diploma and the feedback was based with an emphasis on business development and management.

What are the main advancements you have seen so far over cert IV

[NickR33]

your not supposed to snort the protein powder...

my mother in-law was diagnosed with early osteoporosis recently... so we bought her a set of weights for her birthday... happy birthday, now get off your arse and get moving lol

we can argue about the best ways to train/eat but at the end of the day if your doing regular resistance exercise and eating clean then your doing better than 90% of the population... let them go to the doctors and get their pills... I'll have a steak thank you... and I ain't cutting the fat off it either!

[Birds]

dunno but i do know that after a good root, i have quite the satisfying crop to harvest. nfi why but i think its to do with the heavy breathing

Game of *insert sport here* or a long drive with the windows down. Welcome to crustville...population: your finger.

[TM7GTR]

TM7, how is the Diploma going for you? It is still relatively new in the industry and feel it to be a great progression.

We were consulted some time ago as to what benefits we as employers would like to see as part of the progression into a Diploma and the feedback was based with an emphasis on business development and management.

What are the main advancements you have seen so far over cert IV

Sorry mate, when I mentioned I'm "doing my Diploma" I should have worded it as "I'm going to do my Diploma"

I'm about 2 months away from completion of my cert IV, so i'll begin the Diploma course next Feb.

That said, the business development and management you mentioned above are what the course comprises of primarily in the new system to my knowledge (I know a few of the Diploma students). It used to be just a progression into further learning about exercising for special pops, etc. but now the business development management side of things is very much the target.

For example, at the CIT campus I'm at, the Diploma students run the gym as well as overlooking the marketing side of things, especially the group classes that us cert IV's run.

Put simply it's a hierarchy where you have CIT Managers & Teachers > Diploma Students > Cert IV's > Cert III's

Cert III's work gym floor (they have assigned shifts), actively learning about how a gym works/what it's like to have a job in the industry.

Cert IV's manage the III's, hiring them to run our group exercise classes, while we learn how to effectively market the classes and all about developing business plans and marketing plans covering all the fine details

Diploma Students overlook Cert IV's, approving/disapproving our marketing. They control the management side of things now (it used to be teachers/supervisors looking after the gym).

My course this year has been called the "test course" for the new layout of teaching business and marketing during Cert IV to feed into further study of each in the Diploma course.

[Mitcho_7]

All i know is whenever I have been to the cit gym, there's a lot of student lookin types in there not doing a whole lot and it's annoying because they use all the lockers.

I'm sure it's a decent course though.

[25GTT]

Thanks for the response, looking forward to seeing some positive outcomes from the introduction of the Diplomas.

I get invited to lecture at the Joondalup (West Australian) CIT to Cert IV students from time to time. The current course i think has got most of it right, especially in comparison to say AIF. The time taken and the mentoring seems quite positive from the candidates that are being fed through.

That saying, as mentioned, more emphasis on business development will be fantastic.

Keep us in the loop when you do start as to how it all goes and any major comparisons as you go.

[TTT]

I went an got a sports massage yesterday for lower back, glutes and hamstrings.

oh the humanity!!!!

[Birds]

I went an got a sports massage yesterday for lower back, glutes and hamstrings.

oh the humanity!!!!

[NickR33]

happy ending?

lol @ the IT Crowd episode where the masseur kisses him on the bottom

I went to my Osteo on Mon to have my neck/traps worked on... overhead pressing with a barbell didn't agree with me... going to switch to dumbbells for a while as they let the shoulders move a bit freer

[NickR33]

there was movement! lol

[Mitcho_7]

overhead pressing with a barbell didn't agree with me... going to switch to dumbbells for a while as they let the shoulders move a bit freer

Whenever I do behind the neck presses, I always find the rear of my shoulders is heaps tender for a few days. Doesn't hurt at all when im doing it, But it doesnt feel like a muscular sore/doms type sore either. Not sure if it's because I don't do them that much so My body is just not used to working like that, or if it stresses my joint capsule when in the lower region of each rep.

I prefer dumbells just because of the freedom of movement and then just use a barbell to change it up occasionally.

Edited September 14, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[NickR33]

my issue isn't in my shoulders... its a neck/thoracic issue... if my alignment is a bit out it will pinch when I'm pressing causing the muscles to lock up and protect the spine... so my neck freezes up and I can't turn my head very well... a session at the Osteo pretty much fixes it immediately

I actually like pressing behind the neck for my shoulders... I feel it gives a nice stretch at the bottom... my shoulders rarely give me any issues... but my elbows like to complain a lot

[Trozzle]

I've f**ked a muscle in the right side of my neck from doing OHP with dumbbells. Go figure lol

[Mitcho_7]

I actually like behind the neck press because it seems like it focuses on the anterior delts a bit more.

[TM7GTR]

I've f**ked a muscle in the right side of my neck from doing OHP with dumbbells. Go figure lol

Lol.. Hot girl walked past Troy to the right, he looks to check out dat ass.. Pulls a neck muscle.. CrippleLife/10

[TTT]

OHP and neck pain (as in the pinching feeling and stiffness the next day) is usually not the neck but the scapula and lower trap (near your shoulder blades).

it's a muscle strain type deal.

some massage and rest will fix it in like 3-5 days.

easiest way to get to it yourself is a tennis ball on the floor and lie on top of it so it against the spot between your shoulder blae and spine and slowly roll around. You'll know when you hit the spot.

then man up and work it hard.

[Trozzle]

Lol.. Hot girl walked past Troy to the right, he looks to check out dat ass.. Pulls a neck muscle.. CrippleLife/10

This. All the f**king time.

OHP and neck pain (as in the pinching feeling and stiffness the next day) is usually not the neck but the scapula and lower trap (near your shoulder blades).

it's a muscle strain type deal.

some massage and rest will fix it in like 3-5 days.

easiest way to get to it yourself is a tennis ball on the floor and lie on top of it so it against the spot between your shoulder blae and spine and slowly roll around. You'll know when you hit the spot.

then man up and work it hard.

Nah it's definitely in the neck, unfortunately. Not a muscle that should really have been activated during the exercise.