Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Tangles]

Pec major Muscle.

http://radiology.rsna.org/content/210/3/785.figures-only

yes, sure its one muscle, with one insertion, but does in fact have two seperate origins

[Mitcho_7]

Pec major Muscle.

http://radiology.rsna.org/content/210/3/785.figures-only

yes, sure its one muscle, with one insertion, but does in fact have two seperate origins

Let's let it go! I'm pretty sure there will be emg studies out there that show no difference in electrical activity between either pec head during incline bench.

If nothing else, it is something for everyone to think about I guess!

[-FIGJAM-]

I have a question about this though. Maybe someone smarter then me can answer.

the lower part of my pecks, ie around the nipple is much puffier then the upper area.

why is that so?

If as Markos said, doing bench works the entire peck, then why hasn't mine grown evenly?

Is it as simple or complex as hormones? more fat stored lower? am I growing a vagina as TTT would say?

[SRS13]

EDIT!

Edited October 30, 2012 by SRS13

[TM7GTR]

hahaha growing a vagina....

Yes there are two insertions (for pec minor, pec major) but starting with incline presses won't actually stimulate growth there too much more than a flat press. Hell, even if you do mill presses with a slight angle back on the bench your chest contracts.

Just jab an epipen into pec minor then hit your incline presses....

Figjam, doth thou even hoist?

lol kidding, but if you're really trying to gain size as you say, then yes, you will have deposited fat in your lower chest which gives you that sagging/bitch tits look. If you were to cut back some bodyfat your chest would probably look more like you want it to.

[Mitcho_7]

Franco seemed to have the opposite problem...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=104786&d=1085614345

But here is a paper or two I found that backs what Markos is saying

http://www.thesportjournal.org/article/optimizing-development-pectoralis-major

http://www.daveywaveyfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Effects-of-Variations-of-the-Bench-Press-Exercise-on-the-EMG-Activity-of-Five-Shoulder-Muscles.pdf

[TTT]

figjam is 70kg dripping wet.

he doesn't need to lose weight.

Here's what you do.

those wanting to focus on hitting the upper anterior middle pec - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get rid of the puffy lady nipple area - DO SQUATS

those using 1.25kg increments on deadlifts - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get cut-for-summer - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get farkenhayuuuugebro - DO SQUATS

those wanting to cure cancer - DO SQUATS

those who feel that their wang is heading inwards to become and inside out penis like vagina - DO SQUATS...... and grow a beard.

[-FIGJAM-]

hey hey be fair... Im 70kg in jeans now

lol to the do squats.

[TTT]

you lol to squats.

that's why you're 70kg with lady boobs.

here is the anatomy chart everyone was looking for..

Notice... no puffy nipples - because SQUATS

[jangles]

figjam is 70kg dripping wet.

he doesn't need to lose weight.

Here's what you do.

those wanting to focus on hitting the upper anterior middle pec - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get rid of the puffy lady nipple area - DO SQUATS

those using 1.25kg increments on deadlifts - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get cut-for-summer - DO SQUATS

those wanting to get farkenhayuuuugebro - DO SQUATS

those wanting to cure cancer - DO SQUATS

those who feel that their wang is heading inwards to become and inside out penis like vagina - DO SQUATS...... and grow a beard.

I'm totally with you TTT about the squats, but he (tm7gtr) said he needs to lose bodyfat,not weight. which he does if he wants to get rid of saggy nips.

The muscle building that creates the shape sure as hell counters it though. And will contribute a long way to being muscular and lean

Edited October 30, 2012 by jangles

[TTT]

I don't see how a 70kg guy needs to focus on losing fat.

if he got stronger and bigger muscles he won't need to focus on losing boobie fat.

Edited October 30, 2012 by TTT

[jangles]

I agree, I wouldn't focus on losing fat if muscle/size was the intention.

but fat is fat, whether it's over big muscles or little muscles.

if he wants shape he needs bigger muscles.

If he wants a lean look, he has to be lean, if he developed big pecks and never lost the fat, he will still have saggers

Edited October 30, 2012 by jangles

[Birds]

Paraplegic? DO SQUATS

Anyone concerned with building body shape always worries about their pecs, and rightly so: pecs are weird in shape, they differ for everyone, probably more so than abs. And yes, they often look more like saggy, girly A cups when you first start to build some muscle there...but the trick is to just build more muscle, because eventually pecs get big enough to "even" out a little bit and occupy more of the "upper chest" as some call it. And yes, body fat can be responsive for flab making them look saggier. The way you stand with your posture will change their appearance too. Shoulders back motherf**ker.

I still don't like my side on profile, but it's much better than it was when I first started gaining muscle there. In short, lift moar.

As big as Arnie was, even in the pic below you can see that the pec is bigger down low...it's the natural seating of the muscle. But he has so much muscle there that they've taken on a pronounced shape of their own...somewhat independant of natural bone structure...and no one would ever say he needs to work on his inclines.

[TTT]

Paraplegic? DO SQUATS

Exactly.... those bludgers have had it easy sitting on their arses for way too long.

[Dani Boi]

I get the puffy nips sometimes (generally in hotter weather), feelsbadman.

I've seen a few people who are 70kg and look bigger than someone who is 90kg so don't know where all this generalisation that 70kg is skinny...Will depend on height though.

[NickR33]

lol

last night I didn't start my workout like usual with squats or deadlifts as I wanted to work on my bench and pressing exclusively... weirdly even though I did about 8 different exercises it didn't feel like a workout... I wasn't tired (apart from a massive delt/tricep pump) and I left feeling unsatisfied and annoyed...

plus I missed a paused 120 bench... I now have 10 days to get this lift or I'm going to have a tantrum in front of a whole bunch of people

[TTT]

Dan - he's just under 6' tall

Nick - looking forward to tantrum video

[SRS13]

you lol to squats.

that's why you're 70kg with lady boobs.

LOL.

Mate you've been on a rampage for the last month, what the fark happened to you? That's a rhetorical qn btw.

[NickR33]

Nick - looking forward to tantrum video

thanks for the support as$hole

I think your only allowed to have a tantrum over 150kg... under that you just have to suck it up... it's written in the rules...

[TTT]

LOL.

Mate you've been on a rampage for the last month, what the fark happened to you? That's a rhetorical qn btw.

Well it all started with the first time I......