Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

Just an update on the protein testing...

DTS were nice enough to send me confirmation that they got my enquiry, but not to actually reply to it (been a few days now). So I will attempt contact with the other Melbourne based lab.

[Mitcho_7]

Are you guys getting wpi or wpc tested?

[Birds]

WPI

[Mitcho_7]

Do they give a full breakdown of amino acid profile etc as well?

[Birds]

No idea...that's too technical for us. We only care about the total protein bro.

[No Crust Racing]

BROTEIN!

[Birds]

Whey too much breakdown of protein in this chain.

I'm out, aminos.

[Birds]

Reading a blog that talks about the dangers of melatonin; some of these reader comments are hilarious

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/before-you-close-your-eyes-make-sure-theyre-open/

I think melatonin should be banned or at least have warnings on it.I used it every night for 3 months and I gained 20 pounds!

Im someone who has always been in shape and never weighed more then 120 pounds,so that kind of weight gain was unheard of for me.

I really think the melatonin played a role in that weight gain.I was also crying and sleepy all the time.I thought it was safe to take because it is marketed as a natural supplement.But it in fact gave me symptoms of being bipolar or having a mental illness instead!

Im a very health conscience person. I dont eat meat or poultry, just a little fish. I take a slurry of supplements. I exercise regularly doing lite weights, cardio boxing, yoga and pilates! Im an active mother of 4 kids and work and have always maintained a size 6 (other than 25-30 pounds of weight gain during pregnancy) Recently I used malatonin 3mg 3-4 times a week for 2 months and I have jumped to a size 8. I have increased my exercise and decreased my carbs and I still gained weight. Yes, I am responsible for putting that pill in my mouth at night! I assure you its not my diet or lack of movement!!!

[jangles]

Reading a blog that talks about the dangers of melatonin; some of these reader comments are hilarious

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/before-you-close-your-eyes-make-sure-theyre-open/

Why are people so stupid. Why would you continue to dose yourself up on something if it was having negative effects

[Birds]

People think that just because something can be bought without a prescription (in the USA anyway), then it's no holds barred. And some people think that stuff with a prescription is completely safe too!

I just thought it was funny people blaming 20 pounds of weight gain on a 5mg hormone, as if the weight magically appears out of nowhere. I don't care what effect it has on metabolism, in the end you control what goes into your mouth and what exercise you do. Trying a new medication? Track what you eat and the exercise you do in case it changes.

Someone put it best there - always people looking to abdicate personal responsibility onto something else. Then they go and say to ofhers DON'T TAKE THIS STUFF IT CAUSED ME TO EAT YUMMY DESSERTS WITH EXTRA SPRINKLES EVERY NIGHT. It's the "maccas made me fat" mentality. Amazing how my diet and exercise remained the same, consequently didn't gain any weight on melatonin.

[Trozzle]

The same people are also convinced that if something is ILLEGAL then it must be bad for you

[GHOSTrun]

This company, and the people making the decisions, wholly fn shit, how are they not in jail?!

http://www.realfarmacy.com/bayer-and-us-government-knowingly-gave-hiv-to-thousands-of-children/#2AFiC9asMFUARSBP.01

http://the-tap.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/bayer-and-us-government-knowingly-gave.html

Edited July 28, 2013 by GHOSTrun

[Kenna802]

That's pretty scary if it is indeed true

[Birds]

It seems true from my searching, however it didn't come without penalty...there were hundreds of cases settled in court; they paid hundreds of millions to victims in class action and individual law suits. People should be in jail over it, though.

[Trozzle]

After a f**king terrible weekend, I gave into temptation and ate a bit much peanut butter on toast last night

ze guts, zey are gurgling. f**king peanut butter hahaha

[No Crust Racing]

Birds: Supp testing update?

Markos/all: What's the conventional wisdom on where to drive from with the squat, I find the weight shifting forward for me and I'm driving more from the ball of my foot. I've been told different things heel vs ball, but in my head if I go and jump bare foot, it ain't the heel that wants to land first and take the impact.

[Trozzle]

Birds: Supp testing update?

Markos/all: What's the conventional wisdom on where to drive from with the squat, I find the weight shifting forward for me and I'm driving more from the ball of my foot. I've been told different things heel vs ball, but in my head if I go and jump bare foot, it ain't the heel that wants to land first and take the impact.

I've ALWAYS heard driving from the heel. If you're finding yourself putting more weight onto the ball of your foot, perhaps try a wider stance - that helped for me.

[No Crust Racing]

I'm already pretty wide in my opinion, maybe a bit outside shoulder width and I go low bar.

Interestingly physio advocated ball drive too, she said mechanically it's where you are supposed to push from.

[markos]

Weight on the toes will result in a back injury sooner or later

From side on, the bar path should be mid foot/heel

If it gets over the toes your going to get hurt

[Trozzle]

I'm already pretty wide in my opinion, maybe a bit outside shoulder width and I go low bar.

Interestingly physio advocated ball drive too, she said mechanically it's where you are supposed to push from.

Well yeah, under normal circumstances lol. I'd think when you've got 100kg+ on your back, it's in your best interests to drive as directly as you can by employing less joints directly into the movement...but I've never actually been shown how to squat by a professional, just multiple bros