Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

Not avoiding mate, just been busy with "life". Other things have had to take priority at the moment.

To break down what I understand the issues to be;

Ankle damage resulted in poor ROM in that joint. I'm working on that, stretching walking, light weights, all as instructed by the physio. I saw the physio for a full year after the injury (it's been 13mths now), they are very happy with the progress and they were the ones who said not to expect 100% (as did the podiatrist) so that's not me jumping to conclusions.

Poor ROM has lead to other issues when trying to squat and DL with even light weight (100-110kg max on both), I'd couple that with poor core strength and flexibility - which I'm working on - and poor form (which I did go and see a guy Markos recommended to me, but probably needed to work with him foir a month or so - but he said I was fine off you go) has lead to my current back issue - there are no hammy issues.

My back is sore/tight and as a result I get a bad nerve pain in my left leg which I initially assumed was a hammy - hammy is fine - the nerve pain is referred from the back. Chiro x-rayed and said structurally things look OK, MRI needed and please see podiatrist.

Podiatrist gave me heel raises and said I appear to have already had issues with feet wanting to roll in, indicating poor something strength, can't remember. Do these stretches, try heel raises, if that help we'll go a full orthotic, they have not helped.

I'm still doing empty bar squats and DLs, normal bench, weighted chins and dips, rows with weight, lunges, calf raises (both with weight, albeit light), and planking and when I have time/remember stretching. I'm hardly giving up

But given my goals were a 140 or so squat for reps and say 180 or so DL for reps, my goals have changed to fix the shit that is wrong with me to allow me to consider those figures as possibilities again.

[jangles]

Not avoiding mate, just been busy with "life". Other things have had to take priority at the moment.

To break down what I understand the issues to be;

Ankle damage resulted in poor ROM in that joint. I'm working on that, stretching walking, light weights, all as instructed by the physio. I saw the physio for a full year after the injury (it's been 13mths now), they are very happy with the progress and they were the ones who said not to expect 100% (as did the podiatrist) so that's not me jumping to conclusions.

Poor ROM has lead to other issues when trying to squat and DL with even light weight (100-110kg max on both), I'd couple that with poor core strength and flexibility - which I'm working on - and poor form (which I did go and see a guy Markos recommended to me, but probably needed to work with him foir a month or so - but he said I was fine off you go) has lead to my current back issue - there are no hammy issues.

My back is sore/tight and as a result I get a bad nerve pain in my left leg which I initially assumed was a hammy - hammy is fine - the nerve pain is referred from the back. Chiro x-rayed and said structurally things look OK, MRI needed and please see podiatrist.

Podiatrist gave me heel raises and said I appear to have already had issues with feet wanting to roll in, indicating poor something strength, can't remember. Do these stretches, try heel raises, if that help we'll go a full orthotic, they have not helped.

I'm still doing empty bar squats and DLs, normal bench, weighted chins and dips, rows with weight, lunges, calf raises (both with weight, albeit light), and planking and when I have time/remember stretching. I'm hardly giving up

But given my goals were a 140 or so squat for reps and say 180 or so DL for reps, my goals have changed to fix the shit that is wrong with me to allow me to consider those figures as possibilities again.

ah yep, I was ignoring the ankle fact as I thought you started squats and deadlifts after that injury and were stopping them because of current injury..

My point of giving up wasn't as a whole workout, I just meant because of the injury, don't let it hamper your goals... They should be exactly the same, maybe going to take longer, but still be there.

[No Crust Racing]

I'd have to check my Tom Clancy inspired build thread (that's there for Birds) but I "think" I was doing them before hand, poorly and light, but doing them and wanting to.

And the truth is, it could have just as easily been poor form that caused it, and not the ankle, but I certainly do not move like I used to in the lower half and that's certainly having an effect.

[-FIGJAM-]

interesting reading through people's answers to my questions.

initially i started out to try and get more ascetically pleasing to the opposite sex, these days I have gone off that and aiming for a better focus on overall conditioning.

strength and cardio has influenced my training these days. But still want the decent body to some degree

[No Crust Racing]

Lots of guys start out with that goal. As a 65kg 18yr old, I certainly did.

[Dani Boi]

Dress and present yourself better if you want to appeal to the opposite sex.

[No Crust Racing]

I did that too (we're talking 13years ago now lol)

It helps to look good in a nice shirt if you can fill it.

[-FIGJAM-]

of course dressing nicely and what not, but having a fit body at my current age of 24, with current situations, its expected. At 70kg, I wouldnt call my body overally good, isnt bad but isnt good.

womenz round my age generally like the bigger blokes

[Trozzle]

of course dressing nicely and what not, but having a fit body at my current age of 24, with current situations, its expected. At 70kg, I wouldnt call my body overally good, isnt bad but isnt good.

womenz round my age generally like the aggressive meathead wankers.

FYP

[Birds]

Troy is partially right. A truckload of confidence and a good body will net you the physical appeal of most females - certainly enough to not give a f**k about the rest of them, whom are usually lesbian or will secretly admit to / indulge in the appeal when no one else is around.

"A good looking body is not what I want", said no attractive female ever. It's not a necessity but it never hurts your chances, unless you're over the top muscular...which a lot of guys do because they start off wanting to look good and then develop their own warped version of what looks good and forgetting their original goal.

[Trozzle]

Confidence and the ability to hold good conversation on a decent range of topics, on both "novelty" (ran out of words lol) and intellectual. That's where it's at. Looking good will either help seal the deal, or get you in the door to begin with; it will not serve as a free pass or make up for shortcomings in the previous point - most of the time. In the cases where it does, rajab help you if you want anything more than a root with whatever trollop you've picked up LOL

[No Crust Racing]

You boys are making feel old. Even though I've only got a couple years on you =\

Talking about pulling chicks and looks and how you dress.

You want to know what's hard? Maintaining a working relationship long term lol

Picking up chicks is easy compared to what comes after.

[TM7GTR]

Aggressive meathead wanker checking in


Unfortunately most girls like otter-mode guys.

As long as you have some shape to your chest, some definition on your abs, and decent arms and shoulders, you can pick up any easy girl.

[-FIGJAM-]

I can pick up, no issues there, also in a relo so I guess that focus has shifted.

but when I started, having a bod for women was the reason, guess now its more about me. With the health issues in my family and particularly myself, got to look after myself a little more.

anyone have any workout ideas that you can do in a dog park? This morning i ran laps round it with 3 areas where i did pushups, situps and squats.

I want another 3-4 that I can mix things up with, equipment is my body, there are a few things I can jump on and off i guess.

[No Crust Racing]

Otter mode lol

This seems to be popular on the younger guys, maybe as it's easier to achieve when younger if you were a skinny kent like me with no body fat etc,

Oh man still laughing at Otter mode.

I'm happy to swap a little definition for a bit more meat these days, it appeases the paranoid skinny kid in me.

Edited November 19, 2013 by ActionDan

[TM7GTR]

[Birds]

Do agree about conversation Troy, though I think a lot of that comes with confidence, as when you are totally confident in a situation you tend to be able to say and talk about anything. Though yes, some people are totally boring and couldn't strong a sentence together no matter how much confidence they have!

You boys are making feel old. Even though I've only got a couple years on you =\

Talking about pulling chicks and looks and how you dress.

You want to know what's hard? Maintaining a working relationship long term lol

Picking up chicks is easy compared to what comes after.

You wanna know what's hard, doing both!

[No Crust Racing]

Yeah, the glances your mum must throw at you when you come home with one, I can only imagine.

Probs get hi5's from Dad though?

[bozodos]

opinions on how to improve overhead press and other pushing movements?

[No Crust Racing]

Improve what? Form, amount you can lift, endurance etc?

I can't help but framing your question more specifically will help you get better answers.

Enjoy yourselves gents (and lady) I'm off on holiday for a week very shortly.

<Jerry_Springer> Be good to yourselves and each other.... </Jerry_Springer>.

Edited November 19, 2013 by ActionDan