Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Trozzle]

Cheers man, gets better though As of this morning I'm weighing in at 77kg...and managed that 180kg pull vid below - was a bit sloppy halfway up, not quite sure what happened but at least it wasn't an almost-failure point hahaha

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152527000968677&l=7267454630957437914

[Mitcho_7]

Was that a sumo pull?

Either way congrats on the 180kg. It feels about 80x cooler with 4 20kg plates on either side though...

[Trozzle]

Yeah I've swapped to Sumo permanently to avoid SIJ issues. I did a single conventional pull of 100kg this morning, and could immediately notice a dull pain in my SIJ.

I agree on the 4x 20kg plates though haha, just looks f**king tough. If I buy more plates though I'll have no excuses not pushing for 200 lol....I'm a little scared

[Mitcho_7]

i have only done sumos once and have found them slightly harder to get the weight moving but once it up it moves a lot easier. I think ill continue to use them as an assistance exercise, but some people can pull huge numbers sumo so i guess its whatever suits the individual.

[Birds]

Mate swears by sumo and tells me to try

It, but I lift more than him with conventional. And yet there are people who pull more than me using sumo...so...definitely personal preference.

[Birds]

I have to pull 220kg before it's 4 plates a side

[Trozzle]

haha 25kg plates....that's a good thing though, they're handy

[Birds]

I could put 20s on, but they are short and thick plates, so gives me a bit of a deficit on the deads and my long legs hate that! The 25s are short enough as is. Trained at a different gym lastnight and the 20s had handles; were taller on the ground than my regular gym's 25s. Prolly gave me a slight advantage off the floor.

Bar knurling was great though, really tore up my skin and didn't need chalk.

[The Bogan]

Jagermeister although quite yummy is not good pre-work out.

Not a strength problem, quite the opposite really, it was more of a balance one.

I nearly put the BB through the Ford which shares the garage with my home gym, as I am trying to sell the Ford I though it prudent to cut my session there.

I guess the lesson here is to replace the rack with a cage.

Time for some more food and Jager.

Merry Xmas

[bozodos]

isn't sumo shifting the load to your hips more than back? either way I prefer conventional, and most pros do it that way.

taking a week off for sore traps/elbow to get better (which they are) still feel like I'm losing strength though lol

[jangles]

isn't sumo shifting the load to your hips more than back? either way I prefer conventional, and most pros do it that way.

taking a week off for sore traps/elbow to get better (which they are) still feel like I'm losing strength though lol

Yep. When done properly it uses more leg and less back.

[Mitcho_7]

Well thatd explain why I lift less sumo, with my McFlange legs having to actually do something...

[Birds]

Never seen reason to try it myself, but I've never had an injury or reached a plateau that's made me want to. Usually it's one of these that makes someone give it a go. I know my mate got pretty scared when he pulled a muscle doing deads, he's too scared to do conventional now. I don't agree with that kind of technique bandaiding, but whatever makes you happy I guess.

[Birds]

Had an argument with a mate at dinner quite a while back, where I got quickly shouted down by everyone for suggesting bench press was more a shoulder and tricep exercise than it was a chest exercise. The consensus was that chest was the major muscle group exerting effort during the exercise. And well, you can't really win an argument in that situation, as the masses will just shout you down. I really could have used this video / explanation that night!

[bozodos]

haha yeah I figured that too without watching the video (but I do like Elliot Hulse when he's not waxing philosophical)

Did bench and OHP for the first time in a month with light weight and skipped dips, so far so good, I've also started rolling my traps and upper shoulders with a cricket ball which really helps too.

[Birds]

Yeah, his "other side" can be a bit out there sometimes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLKdq-J5NE4&sns=em

[bozodos]

4 minutes 14

on actual training etc I do like his philosophy though, also the fact that he freely admits to having juiced before, unlike most YouTube fitness types (aka Kali Muscle, become pro bodybuilder on Tuna and Ramen LOL)

Edited December 28, 2013 by bozodos

[GTR_JOEY]

His videos on strength training and technique are usually very good..

Though I enjoy his thoughts on philosophy of life and how to strengthen the mind a lot more

[Gts-t]

Hey all,

I've been doing light gym work for the last two months following the back surgery I had three months ago. At the moment I'm just using bsc hydroxy burn pro, lean and ripped formula. I get it from Coles and am looking to buy a bigger amount of a better product if anyone knows? I am not looking to get big, I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time by either taking too little or too much supplements.

Over 2 months of going to the gym I've lost 4kg of fat and have maybe 4 to go max I would say. Not looking to take short cuts I'll be doing light gym work for the rest of my life now to try and look after my blown lower back disc

Cheers

[GTR_JOEY]

I don't think there is a "too little" amount of supps you can take.. ive personally lost nearly 5 kg in the last 6 weeks and I haven't been taking any supps at all whilst maintaining nearly all my strength

All ive done is the basics

1 drink only water

2 cut down on carbs ie breads, pasta, rice

3 cut out processed foods

4 Add 10- 15min of intense cardio in the morning before my weight regime in the arvo (doing 3-4km on the rower usually, the thin air at 4500ft gets me breathing heavy pretty quick lol)

5.Keep up a reasonable intensity during weight sessions

6.Stay off the piss

What are the limitations of your cardio in regards to your back?