Gym And Supplement Discussion

[triggerhappy]

  On 21/08/2014 at 11:28 PM, L33SH said:

I don't do them

Got a comment last Saturday from a trainer at the gym, said my shoulders are looking amazing

Best shoulder exercise for making them look good is straight arm side raises. Bet you do a few of these hahah front raises to.

[The Bogan]

A overhead shoulder press is done standing, the weight is pressed without any leg movement and is finished with the weight overhead and your head "out the window.

But then my weight routine really only focus on strength training really not body building.

[L33SH]

  On 21/08/2014 at 11:43 PM, triggerhappy said:

Best shoulder exercise for making them look good is straight arm side raises. Bet you do a few of these hahah front raises to.

No I don't

I don't do any isolated shoulder exercises...

[triggerhappy]

  On 22/08/2014 at 12:06 AM, L33SH said:

No I don't

I don't do any isolated shoulder exercises...

what do you put your shoulders down to? Its something that most people struggle to build properly

[bozodos]

  On 14/08/2014 at 3:44 AM, Birds said:

This

Okay for an occasional form check, but you'll be more focused and "one" with the weight/bar and movement if your only sensory perception of things is the feeling of weight across your shoulders and progressing through the range of motion.

I started training a couple of days a week at the local PL club, and having to train without a mirror is the best thing I've done in a while. I actually found it hard deadlifting at the commercial gym staring at myself. That and using crappy liquid chalk and bars with no knurling; it's now ruined for me lol.

[L33SH]

  On 22/08/2014 at 12:11 AM, triggerhappy said:

what do you put your shoulders down to? Its something that most people struggle to build properly

compound exercises?

I only do squats, deadlifts, bench, pull ups, lat pulldown, seated row and biceps at the gym...

This isn't the first comment I've had about my shoulders recently either.

The only thing I've changed recently is adding more sets to my bench.

[Birds]

Bench will give you decent looking shoulders as long as balanced with rows and deads to prevent hunching.

If you're bodybuilding you might want something more substantial, with overheads and rear delt work.

And that's not to say there aren't strength benefits from adding exercises like shoulder press, but you can easily do without and get decently strong with good looking shoulders.

All these bloody disclaimers I have to add these days lest someone get uppity that I missed out on something or bagged their routine.

[r31slpr]

Thanks for the ideas, I'm not really bothered about looks, training for strength.

My shoulder is still a bit dodgy and doesn't agree with bench, currently doing full body with standing ohp and dips in it.

Might try add some percentage based work like mlr suggested.

[triggerhappy]

  On 22/08/2014 at 1:53 AM, r31slpr said:

Thanks for the ideas, I'm not really bothered about looks, training for strength.

My shoulder is still a bit dodgy and doesn't agree with bench, currently doing full body with standing ohp and dips in it.

Might try add some percentage based work like mlr suggested.

I couldnt bench 60kg a year ago and started rotator cuff excersizes every day and now got heaps of strength back in it. Still sore but can bench 100kg + depending how sore it is but i dont use a full range of motion

[r31slpr]

Bench isn't a priority for me anyway so I don't really mind. I did a bench session a few months ago and got 90kg paused for two reps. So it's not terrible I guess. My shoulder issue isn't rotator cuff related luckily.

Edited August 22, 2014 by r31slpr

[Birds]

See I have shoulder issues that prevent overhead movements, so bench is the only comfortable movement for me!

It really depends where you want the strength too...for me, in my sports, a horizontal push is more useful than a vertical one.

[The Bogan]

Funny story.

It was leg day today, started of with some bar warm ups then proceeded to follow my program and add weight as programed, weight felt heavy, I'm thinking its going to be one of them days, on about the fourth set I just manage to bust out 5 reps for 140.

Looking at my program I still had another 2 sets to go, a 5 x 152.5 and a 5 x 162.5, WTF....I thought I had deloaded.

I then put my glasses on and seen I was halfway through my Deadlift routine.

Note to self. Use larger font when printing program.

[rev210]

  On 22/08/2014 at 2:43 AM, triggerhappy said:

I couldnt bench 60kg a year ago and started rotator cuff excersizes every day and now got heaps of strength back in it. Still sore but can bench 100kg + depending how sore it is but i dont use a full range of motion

pretty common. Rotator and scapular issues are the main ones. Thorasic spine issues and so on. Desk jobs + gym make it worse for people. Lots of internal rotation posture and then super strong internal rotation muscles vs weak/un developed external rotation muscles.

I had a turn of plenty of those injuries when I was much younger and then I learnt how to avoid them. Not had an issue since.

You could afford to ditch bench for 6months, then stick to ohp. Learn to do them from a clean. Learn to clean and ohp correctly(not behind the neck).

Rotator cuff excersises are fine but, once you have mobility back, the ones you ought to do for strength are face pulls or cuban press. Thorasic mobility and strength are important also. Rows and a few different movements you can get off youtube if you search.

shoulders like everything else are governed genetically. Alot of the asthetics of shoulders is also to do with bodyfat. Drop body fat and they look larger.

Edited August 24, 2014 by rev210

[Trozzle]

My mate's calves. Wat.

[r31slpr]

Damn decent calves

Good post rev, scapular issues is what I have. Nearly resolved though.

[The Bogan]

New PB's for my 4 main lifts after a deload a month ago.

Feeling strong and solid for a old man.

Really happy with 5 3 1.

[L33SH]

  On 04/09/2014 at 10:35 AM, mlr said:

New PB's for my 4 main lifts after a deload a month ago.

Feeling strong and solid for a old man.

Really happy with 5 3 1.

Grats! what were the pbs?

[The Bogan]

Bench 5 x 125 up 1 rep + 2.5, felt hard

OHP 5 x 77.5 up 1 rep and 2.5, felt hard

Dead 4 x 177.5 up 2.5, thought my head was going to explode

ATG Squat 4 x 142.5 up 2.5, thought my eyes were going to pop out

80kg (fat boy) 49yrs old.

[L33SH]

Awesome!

[GTR_JOEY]

Nice work Mark, getting pretty strong mate