Gym And Supplement Discussion

[The Bogan]

Purchased the WALKMAN W273S head set to belt out aggressive tunes to myself whilst training and swimming.

Excellent for only $70, really light and secure even doing wild out of control last sets of sleds.

Haven't swam in them yet but I did shower in them which was interesting.

[Birds]

New squat PB of 80kg x 20 reps, all ass to ground and high bar. Up 5 reps from 15 last session.

WOW, simply one of the most intense pieces of exercise I have ever done. It is 99% a mental battle, standing there with the bar across your traps, the weight feeling heavier and heavier as time goes by, struggling to catch your breath and wanting to throw in the towel after every rep - I wanted to stop at 10 but had this insane drive to keep going and going. Racking it after 20 I promptly collapsed to the ground because my legs couldn't hold me up anymore lol. Took longer to catch my breath after that than my old 3km HIIT sprints used to.

So yes, painful and energy sapping as all hell, but so damn rewarding. Not looking forward to stairs and toilet seats tomorrow.

[bozodos]

I also found 15-20 rep squats @ the 80-100% bodyweight mark to be a real mental and physical challenge, glad I don't do them regularly any more!

[Birds]

I'm a bit sleight at the moment, weighing in at 81.5kg lastnight, so they were 98% bodyweight

Surprisingly my 1RM isn't going up, despite consistently adding a rep or two to the 80kg volume each session. Usually I can bounce one off the other (1RM vs volume) and vice versa.

With certainty in bench, I know that if I can get out 7-8 reps of 100 then I can do a single of 120 etc. Squats seems to be a different ball game!

A bit of empirical theory; I suspect that in the high volume squats I have more time during the set to gradually recruit each muscle in the chain, which could explain my second wind after 10 reps. Comparatively, a 1RM being a single rep, if you don't have everything doing it's part straight up, you won't be lifting to your potential. That and the lower weight squats are probably more controlled? Combination of lots of factors probably.

[jangles]

I'm a bit sleight at the moment, weighing in at 81.5kg lastnight, so they were 98% bodyweight

Surprisingly my 1RM isn't going up, despite consistently adding a rep or two to the 80kg volume each session. Usually I can bounce one off the other (1RM vs volume) and vice versa.

With certainty in bench, I know that if I can get out 7-8 reps of 100 then I can do a single of 120 etc. Squats seems to be a different ball game!

A bit of empirical theory; I suspect that in the high volume squats I have more time during the set to gradually recruit each muscle in the chain, which could explain my second wind after 10 reps. Comparatively, a 1RM being a single rep, if you don't have everything doing it's part straight up, you won't be lifting to your potential. That and the lower weight squats are probably more controlled? Combination of lots of factors probably.

I was under the impression that anything around 8rm+ doesn't have the carry over to 1rm.

[Birds]

That could certainly explain my observations, and also why 1RM calculators are limited to a 10 rep input...though I always thought that was because the algebraic equations would blow out reliability with any number higher than 10.

Probably also explains why my <10 rep sets are affected by my intensity during a prior 1RM, yet I always have room in the tank for the high volume weights.

Would like to know the physiology behind it. Slow vs fast twitch fibers being used for one and not the other?

Can we therefore assume that if these different "strengths" operate independantly of one another, I could train both rep ranges in the one session (as I'm doing now) without them negatively impacting each other? Creating a rounded combination of strength and endurance?

[Birds]

As an aside to this, when I was training low weight bench for a couple weeks I got my 60kg reps up to about 27-28 and my 1RM was probably around 115, however during my strongest 1RM period (122.5kg), when I had mostly been focusing on low rep sets, I gave the 60kg challenge a shot and only completed around 23 reps.

[L33SH]

btw since no fker besides my boyfriend checks my build thread, I got a squat pb last night

I'm weighing less and lifting more than ever woot!

[jangles]

btw since no fker besides my boyfriend checks my build thread, I got a squat pb last night

I'm weighing less and lifting more than ever woot!

If it makes you feel any better, I keep up to date.

[jangles]

That could certainly explain my observations, and also why 1RM calculators are limited to a 10 rep input...though I always thought that was because the algebraic equations would blow out reliability with any number higher than 10.

Probably also explains why my <10 rep sets are affected by my intensity during a prior 1RM, yet I always have room in the tank for the high volume weights.

Would like to know the physiology behind it. Slow vs fast twitch fibers being used for one and not the other?

Can we therefore assume that if these different "strengths" operate independantly of one another, I could train both rep ranges in the one session (as I'm doing now) without them negatively impacting each other? Creating a rounded combination of strength and endurance?

Depends I guess, your training methods have proved to be slow progressing in the max/1rm scale (not starting an argument).. So they must affect each other.

If you focused on one or the other in cycles I'd assume you'd have greater (quicker) results in both areas.

Most training cycles start with higher volume/intensity in the earlier weeks and taper down to peaking. But, they are generally always reps for more weight, not weight for more reps.

[Gts-t]

I'm down to 65-66kg again, was at 78-79 before I started training 12 months ago. Feels good after years of semi commitment and being a fat flamin mongrel

[L33SH]

What's your height?

[triggerhappy]

Dropped 8kg in 4.5 weeks sitting on 90.3kg and strength is up. Having fun so far.. Actually hit PB shoulder press of 110kg for 9 reps

[TTT]

I'm a bit sleight at the moment, weighing in at 81.5kg...

same

[r31slpr]

Fark my weight is going the other way, 118kg now, gota stop eating so much

[Birds]

Fark my weight is going the other way, 118kg now, gota start lifting more

fypbrah

[triggerhappy]

Everytime i start cardio again i get lighter and stronger...

[The Bogan]

If you can carry you shopping your not buying enough food.

If you cannot carry your shopping your not lifting enough.

And go.

[No Crust Racing]

Morning all.

I'm still here, doing little more than maintenance these days due to work, not great sleep, long winter season of illness etc. Lost 5-6kgs (not intentionally and it sucks, but hey, more abs) and am only getting 3x 30-40min sessions a week these days so unsurprisingly my strength/size has/is also going backwards.

Because I cannot easily control the factors affecting it, what's the best approach to try and minimise the losses? Drop the weight so I can get out the full rep/set scheme (3x8 in most cases, 2x15 on squats bu they are only light and are a special case due to my back) or continue doing what I've been doing which is struggle but keep adding sets to get the full volume out. as in 8, 8, 5, 3 or 8, 7, 6, 3 etc.

Good to see you guys (and Leesh) still cranking out your sessions

[Birds]

If you're limited on time and energy I would be shooting for singles and low reps high weight