Gym And Supplement Discussion

[some_cs_student]

Yeah I do plenty of dynamic stretching and run throughs...Static stretching at the start, but once that's done I pretty much don't stand still until the game is over

There's quite a bit of evidence against static stretching for most scenarios, you might want to have a read

[some_cs_student]

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You should consider upping the reps to 8, and dropping the sets to 3. The biggest gains (read: damage) will be in the last few reps you THINK you can't do but you force yourself anyway. If I can do 10 reps in my 3rd set, it's because I didn't do enough the first two sets. As many as you can first set (if above say 10 in your case, consider higher weight), as many as you can second set, then as many as you can in the last set but go for ONE MORE (that you KNOW you won't be able to do) and hold the weight as long as you can at the point that your muscles stop. When you can't take it anymore, lower them gently. DO NOT DROP THEM. Other than the fact that you're not supposed to, you look like a f**ken wank if you do, and you're showing yourself some beneficial discipline by taking control of your muscles and brain screaming at you to stop it.

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If your talking about training to failure than I disagree. 8 reps is generally too many for me, but I might try it at some point.

Thanks for the advice

[Birds]

Static stretching is fine as long as you know your body and how to stretch properly. It's not for everyone though. You can do damage if you don't know what you're doing.

If I didn't stretch before running, I would have busted ankles/knees and pulled muscles all over the place. I know because I've tried it without stretching and the results feelsbadman.jpg (particularly as my run starts off fairly heavy). No issues if I've stretched first though.

[macdog]

Sprints is where it's at for fat burning...

I WISH I could do flat out sprints, but having pulled 4-5 hamstrings in a 2 year period, it's not really an option for me.

I'm playing footy again this year (after deciding to retire last year due to doing so many hammies) but I'll never be able to go 100% again...

cold water swimming for you my friend!!!

get out and go for a swim in the salt water

[macdog]

I donated a pint of blood Thursday and was advised to skip the gym that day. Well duh I thought, I wouldn't want my blood vessel exploding on everything and on everyone. I won't skip today (Friday) as I feel missing yesterday, plus today and the weekend is too much, but will load up with liquids and vitamins, flax seed oil too, then a good meal after the workout session. And some heavy drinking later in the night unless I can't handle more than 3 shots of whiskey.

I am now up to 70kg for the shoulder press, and was at 90kg around 3 years ago. Doing 20 non-stop shaky dips, while before was 50. 10 pull ups while 20 before, so I am returning back to my old body. I think a month and a half will be enough for me to be in shape I was.

fck sake mate, 50 dips? how much do you weigh? do you mean the below dips?? if you do, 50 fcking dips in one go is fcking nuts.

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

Ive only just hit the gym again after having 2 weeks off due to an injury doing dips. I sprained my sternum, no shit. Where the ribs join on the cartlidge stretched and became inflamed. Fark it hurt. It felt like Id been punched fair in the sternum but from the inside.

Fuck dips and all they stand for.

[macdog]

Ive only just hit the gym again after having 2 weeks off due to an injury doing dips. I sprained my sternum, no shit. Where the ribs join on the cartlidge stretched and became inflamed. Fark it hurt. It felt like Id been punched fair in the sternum but from the inside.

f**k dips and all they stand for.

bad luck mate,

Dips are by far the best though, streches the chest right out..

drink some more milk... punched from the inside.. ouch!! hahaha

do some swimming, swimming is the fcking best!!

[Hanaldo]

+1, dips are amazing. Favourite exercise at the gym.

Anyone got suggestions for some intense exercise for obliques? I usually do a few different exercises, but I just don't feel the burn anymore. Abs are fine, just need something more challenging for obs?

[macdog]

+1, dips are amazing. Favourite exercise at the gym.

Anyone got suggestions for some intense exercise for obliques? I usually do a few different exercises, but I just don't feel the burn anymore. Abs are fine, just need something more challenging for obs?

what about doing Bridge??

or hang off a chin up bar and bend/lift your knees up to your chest and then turn from side to side but pausing when you get back to the middle...

hard to explain.. need to get a picture.

here we go..

catch my drift? thanks google.

[NickR33]

Ive only just hit the gym again after having 2 weeks off due to an injury doing dips. I sprained my sternum, no shit. Where the ribs join on the cartlidge stretched and became inflamed. Fark it hurt. It felt like Id been punched fair in the sternum but from the inside.

Fuck dips and all they stand for.

lol

did you go too deep into them?

I stop pretty much where the dude in that pic is... maybe a touch lower

[NickR33]

Hanaldo: Bruce Lee flags? hardest... core... exercise... ever...

doesn't really isolate the obliques though

do you have access to cables? if so you can do wood chops or cable oblique twists

[Trozzle]

Ive only just hit the gym again after having 2 weeks off due to an injury doing dips. I sprained my sternum, no shit. Where the ribs join on the cartlidge stretched and became inflamed. Fark it hurt. It felt like Id been punched fair in the sternum but from the inside.

f**k dips and all they stand for.

LOL Dips are the bomb! I usually go for 3x10 reps with 15kg on the belt, but can't farken find a belt at my current gym!!! So now it's just 14kg between the ankles, which is f**king struggle town.

Sternum though dude, not cool. I hit the handle bars of my bike once thanks to a retarded launch on a dirt jump...now whenever I stretch the chest by trying to "touch my elbows together" I get a huge crack sound in my sternum like cracking your knuckles, only louder.

Also I'm doing my best to cut back on carbs in the leadup to heading overseas (Europe, fark yeah) for no obvious reason (hint: ladies). I couldn't be arsed tailoring my diet for 4 weeks, so I'm just not eating any snacks or sugary shit at all (bar morning mocha). Shit sucks already, and I'm not even going all out better be worth it rofl

[Hanaldo]

what about doing Bridge??

or hang off a chin up bar and bend/lift your knees up to your chest and then turn from side to side but pausing when you get back to the middle...

hard to explain.. need to get a picture.

here we go..

catch my drift? thanks google.

Yeh I already do bridging, but I do weighted crunches (4x20 reps with 20kg weight ball) beforehand so my abs give out after about 2 minutes of bridging and obliques don't get that much benefit.

I also already do a similar exercise as that other one, not free-weight though. My gym has a machine that you kneel on and twist side to side to lift the weight.

Hanaldo: Bruce Lee flags? hardest... core... exercise... ever...

doesn't really isolate the obliques though

do you have access to cables? if so you can do wood chops or cable oblique twists

Can do cables, I shall google the Bruce Lee flags...

Also I'm doing my best to cut back on carbs in the leadup to heading overseas (Europe, fark yeah) for no obvious reason (hint: ladies). I couldn't be arsed tailoring my diet for 4 weeks, so I'm just not eating any snacks or sugary shit at all (bar morning mocha). Shit sucks already, and I'm not even going all out better be worth it rofl

Lol, funny how you are doing Europe-prep, I'm busy getting my body back after Europe

The diet gets much easier. I can no longer drink any soft drinks, and I find most fast food that I used to enjoy disgusting. Healthy food just gets easier and easier to eat; makes you feel better.

[Trozzle]

Lol, funny how you are doing Europe-prep, I'm busy getting my body back after Europe

The diet gets much easier. I can no longer drink any soft drinks, and I find most fast food that I used to enjoy disgusting. Healthy food just gets easier and easier to eat; makes you feel better.

It's a little disconcerting how I keep hearing about the content of food over there taking your body in the other direction

Since I'm spending the good majority of my time in one place (Estonia) I'll be looking into a 1 month thing for a local gym if possible, otherwise just regular attendance. Either that, or I'll just use the disgusting amount of free time I'll have to exercise. Go for jogs around town during the day looking for ladies perhaps? hahaha

[Hanaldo]

It's a little disconcerting how I keep hearing about the content of food over there taking your body in the other direction

Since I'm spending the good majority of my time in one place (Estonia) I'll be looking into a 1 month thing for a local gym if possible, otherwise just regular attendance. Either that, or I'll just use the disgusting amount of free time I'll have to exercise. Go for jogs around town during the day looking for ladies perhaps? hahaha

It's not really the food as such, although it doesn't help. Dunno about you but when I go overseas I like to eat the national foods. Not many countries have 'salad' as a typical food lol. I wouldn't say the food is any worse over there, it's just that I would ONLY eat that stuff as opposed to when I'm at home and I eat healthy.

Couple that with the fact that my only exercise for 6 weeks was snowboarding, it's not hard to see how I am now in recovery mode lol. If you can keep up your exercise while you are there then you won't have too many issues. You going in winter or summer?

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

lol

did you go too deep into them?

I stop pretty much where the dude in that pic is... maybe a touch lower

Way low, to the piont where you can not go any lower, as soon as I started up again it just popped, made a noise! Problem is that my dip grips on the gym are right up the top so I had to complete the excercise, which did more damage.

[macdog]

Way low, to the piont where you can not go any lower, as soon as I started up again it just popped, made a noise! Problem is that my dip grips on the gym are right up the top so I had to complete the excercise, which did more damage.

that is the worst...

unlucky.

[Birds]

I tried those wood chops with the cables at the gym tonight...they feel great! Feels like it would do quite a bit for useable core strength. Very three dimensional exercise. Are we focusing on obliques with these? I won't be able to diagnose exactly what muscles I used until tomorrow morning lol. Pain = gain!

[Trozzle]

It's not really the food as such, although it doesn't help. Dunno about you but when I go overseas I like to eat the national foods. Not many countries have 'salad' as a typical food lol. I wouldn't say the food is any worse over there, it's just that I would ONLY eat that stuff as opposed to when I'm at home and I eat healthy.

Couple that with the fact that my only exercise for 6 weeks was snowboarding, it's not hard to see how I am now in recovery mode lol. If you can keep up your exercise while you are there then you won't have too many issues. You going in winter or summer?

hahaha, well my 2 week Utah trip we ate absolute shit every day (When in USA...) yet came home just as good shape but much stronger legs lol....only snowboarding

At least I'm staying with the girlfriend's family the whole time in Estonia, so it will be more or less the same diet I'm on here coz we'll be sorting out own food 90% of the time. Plus when at her grandparent's place we'll be living on a "farm" so will have access to heaps of fresh shit. I'll be exercising just as much if not more than I am now due to having significantly more spare time than I do here in Canberra. I'm interested to see where it gets me.

[Dani Boi]

I've gone from 60kg-64kg in 6 weeks. I'm pretty happy with myself, going to keep bulking for another 6 weeks and hopefully hit 68kg. I could probably increase my calorie intake and get quicker gains but I'm happy with the progress.

It's amazing the responses you get from people when you tell them your trying to put on weight,,, "Why don't you just eat mcdonalds" "isn't putting on weight unhealthy" blah blah blah

Edited May 6, 2011 by Dani Boi