Gym And Supplement Discussion

[some_cs_student]

@some_cs_student, knurling is the name of the marker? I'll take it. I also didn't know about the different widths of the knurling. On the wrists, I am sorry to hear about your wrists! I'll be sure to be careful with mine, thanks for the warning.

Nope, knurling is the rough section of the bar (as opposed to the smooth section)

The only mention I found was "grip markers" for those lines lol

[NickR33]

I have to be careful though, my old man is mid 60's and in pretty ridiculous condition for a bloke his age... he's a bit light to put up big numbers with the iron but he can do ab wheel roll-outs and other bodyweight exercises that most 20yr olds would struggle with... he's a PT tho so spends all day in the gym

[GTR_JOEY]

Dont have my own build thread so ill just post here

Did some dead lifts this afternoon... New PB

180kg x2 then

190kg x1

140kg x 10

still work to do but will be at 200 in no time

no straps btw

Edited October 7, 2011 by GTR_JOEY

[Nanogrip]

That is impressive GTR_JOEY. My personal best is 150kg x1.

So I found what was causing my wrist pains, it is the Smith machine! When the benches are occupied, I use the Smith machine for my benches. I put on much more weights as I don't need a lot of stabilizing, and the bar itself weighs like nothing. The weight is part of the cause of the pain, that plus the way to unlock the bar bends my wrists enough to cause soreness and pain in the wrists. Problem solved. Thanks guys for all your help

[GTR_JOEY]

Cheers mate my gaol is to get 3x my body weight

Yea smith machines cause more harm then good I reckon, restrict the natural movement of the body

Good u have it sorted though, now hit up those dumbbells

Edited October 12, 2011 by GTR_JOEY

[NickR33]

is it strange to squat more than you deadlift? all the results I've read guys are deadlifting much more than their squats... I know its partially my grip holding me back so going to buy some straps for max effort days

eg. last night DL 150kg x 3 (3rd was a struggle)... where as squat 150kg x 5

thought I was doing okay on the DL then look across and there's a fully ripped BB looking dude pumping out 180kg then 200kg for reps... same dude I was watching the other week smash 120kg incline presses like he was warming up... bastard lol

[NickR33]

good to hear nanogrip... the only good use for a smith machine is to lock it on the top pins and do pull ups off it

[GTR_JOEY]

Generally people can deadlift more then they can squat, have u been squating longer then you ve been deadlifting? How heavy are u?

I've been building my grip by doin heavy ass shrugs, roman deadlifts without hitting the ground and normal dead lifts.. Has helped alot

Edited October 12, 2011 by GTR_JOEY

[Trozzle]

good to hear nanogrip... the only good use for a smith machine is to lock it on the top pins and do pull ups off it

Exactly what I use it for

[GTR_JOEY]

Got a mate that can deadlift 300, bench 200 and saw him do 200x6 squat the other day

I'll catch him one day, just need some help

[TTT]

is it strange to squat more than you deadlift? all the results I've read guys are deadlifting much more than their squats... I know its partially my grip holding me back so going to buy some straps for max effort days

eg. last night DL 150kg x 3 (3rd was a struggle)... where as squat 150kg x 5

as a novice it is the norm that your deadlift is more than your squat.

but people at the top of their game usually squat more than they deadlift.

not by much though.

if it's grip related, try a mixed grip.

try hook grip too (it's painful on the thumbs though - start light and see if it is for you)

are you using chalk? - if your gym doesn't allow it you can get liquid chalk stuff on the web or "climbing" equipment stores.

tried deadlifting sumo or semi sumo?

Edited October 12, 2011 by GTST

[GTR_JOEY]

Hear that Nick ur at the top of your game so u can stop now haha..

Na You ll build up pretty quick if u keep pushin yourself

[NickR33]

GTR JOEY: nope been doing both for about the same time... I've been doing heavy compound stuff once to twice a week for a couple of years now... about 83-84kg at the moment... I'm not super serious though, not really interested in taking T or HGH or whatever... I don't even take supps... prob should be taking some protein but so hard to tell what's good and what's rubbish... the supplement industry is hilariously shonky

GTST: yeah that seems to be the norm, I'm far from on top of my game though! I always lift with a mixed grip when the weight starts to get heavy but I don't like hook grip... yeah chalk not allowed, I'll look into the liquid stuff... also haven't tried lifting sumo, might be worth a shot

I've read doing high rep, one arm dumbell rows is good for your grip so I might work those in

I'm not training to be a powerlifter but I'd like to be able to do double my body weight for reps comfortably, that's the goal at the moment... although its hard to do that when your restricting your calorie intake to get rid of the gut flab for summer... gotta eat to lift heavy!

[TTT]

trying to get PRs while on a calorie deficit leads to all kinds of failure followed by anger.. lol

[GTR_JOEY]

Yea you should probably take something lol at least protein and Aminos..

So far I've found International Protein to be the best and there is ALOT of shit out there that is rubbish...

[some_cs_student]

So I found what was causing my wrist pains, it is the Smith machine! When the benches are occupied, I use the Smith machine for my benches. I put on much more weights as I don't need a lot of stabilizing, and the bar itself weighs like nothing. The weight is part of the cause of the pain, that plus the way to unlock the bar bends my wrists enough to cause soreness and pain in the wrists. Problem solved. Thanks guys for all your help

Smith machines can be more harm than good at heavy weights.

It will also cause problems with squatting, beyond creating a weakness from attempting to squat in an unnatural position

[some_cs_student]

as a novice it is the norm that your deadlift is more than your squat.

but people at the top of their game usually squat more than they deadlift.

not by much though.

We had that discussion at the gym recently, generally people squat more than they deadlift because they're using equipment and the equipment helps more on squats than deadlift's.

The deadlift is very hard to assist in anyway.

Although it does vary for people....strong is strong!

[GTR_JOEY]

You think people Generally squat more then they can deadlift?

You have to be joking lol, elite athletes probably the other 99% would be rare

[some_cs_student]

You think people Generally squat more then they can deadlift?

You have to be joking lol, elite athletes probably the other 99% would be rare

Sorry, I was referring to the elite/higher end athletes only. I should have mentioned that

I was just saying in general, everyone deadlifts more than they squat, even elite athletes when they lift completely raw.

[NickR33]

I think my squat is better because my deadlift is crap... my squat is pretty good as I have relatively thick legs and I can use my quads a lot... I think my lower back/glutes need work as well as my grip... I'm thinking some straps will help me go heavier and work my posterior chain more while I use other exercises to improve grip

I've heard that having long arms is better for deadlifting? I have pretty short arms so maybe that's not helping

I'm also going to try sumo...

I also don't use a weight belt or any equipment... maybe I should?

thanks for the help