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As opposed to a WRX / EVO etc that are quick to 100km/h or whose quarter mile time is flattered with acceleration to 60km/h because of AWD traction, but are dogs with no pull after 120km/h through to 240km/h.

They are just different sorts of cars, thats all. The cars that you are saying are SLOW would be rockets from 100km/h to 250+ km/h. Personally i would rather a car with the grunt to push it through the air at high speed so is a ball of fun when i go to the track. Rather then a car with flattering times because of traction.

Anyway, just something to think about :laugh:

Thats rubbish Roy.

An Evo and an Sti being a dog from 120 to 240 is a ridiculous statement.

You try telling me that this evo going from 0 to 200 mph and back to 0 in 20 seconds flat isnt impressive.

And yes i understand its a fully sik and hektik worked off its tits version bra. :D

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cool

that should come in handy..

GTST, Im at a complete loss as to how you could type out a post about Japanese having small penises and the female variety being skinny f**ks and how you could cram a lot of them into Japanese cars because they are made for them and then turn around after having been warned and say it was all a big joke and there was no racist intent??

Get real dude. It wasnt funny AT ALL and your words did not indicate to me one bit that you were joking.

Now strap yourself into the passenger seat of this thing and promptly shit yourself twice for being such a dick.

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GTST, Im at a complete loss as to how you could type out a post about Japanese having small penises and the female variety being skinny f**ks and how you could cram a lot of them into Japanese cars because they are made for them and then turn around after having been warned and say it was all a big joke and there was no racist intent??

Get real dude. It wasnt funny AT ALL and your words did not indicate to me one bit that you were joking.

Now strap yourself into the passenger seat of this thing and promptly shit yourself twice for being such a dick.

It was a generalisation.

a joke.

you know.. like me being a greasy wog (which I would be if I had hair)

The mods have already had there say.. so who are you to stand on the soap box and try to tell me what's right or wrong?

If you haven't already sent a complaint to a mod about it, then maybe you should.

maybe the power of one can get me banned.

until then, you keep posting boring videos.

Thats rubbish Roy.

An Evo and an Sti being a dog from 120 to 240 is a ridiculous statement.

You try telling me that this evo going from 0 to 200 mph and back to 0 in 20 seconds flat isnt impressive.

Fark you get carried away with yourself :D

How many STI/Evos have you driven/raced door to door against? My car club runs its championship with the WRX club of Victoria, and we have a class for WRC cars. So i share a bit of time with these cars at various tracks.

Im by no means an expert, or claiming to be 1000% right. If you look hard enough you can find any number of cars to prove a point, so well done on posting a completely irrelevant youtube video. :laugh: But claiming my opinion is "rubbish" or ridiculous?

My point was i havde come out of corners bumper to bumper with STI/Evos at Sandown and Phillip Island. My experience is i walk away from STIs and EVos down the straights. To be in my group, they generally have between 200-240awks and they are scary fast up until 120km/h where the gearing, power delivery and weigtht all make them quicker then my car. But get them on to the long straights and i pull them in or pull away from them as my car is quicker in the top end. In all the track days i have done i can only generally think iof 1 STI that is quicker then me and able to pass me in a straight line. The scary thing is many of them do similar times to me....its only they make time in completely different parts of the track. But its definitely not on the long haul through 4th and 5th gears up past 160km/h.

So call it what you want....but you cant call it rubbish. their low speed traction is flattering to the overall pace of the car. Anyway...

Fark you get carried away with yourself :(

How many STI/Evos have you driven/raced door to door against? My car club runs its championship with the WRX club of Victoria, and we have a class for WRC cars. So i share a bit of time with these cars at various tracks.

Im by no means an expert, or claiming to be 1000% right. If you look hard enough you can find any number of cars to prove a point, so well done on posting a completely irrelevant youtube video. :huh: But claiming my opinion is "rubbish" or ridiculous?

My point was i havde come out of corners bumper to bumper with STI/Evos at Sandown and Phillip Island. My experience is i walk away from STIs and EVos down the straights. To be in my group, they generally have between 200-240awks and they are scary fast up until 120km/h where the gearing, power delivery and weigtht all make them quicker then my car. But get them on to the long straights and i pull them in or pull away from them as my car is quicker in the top end. In all the track days i have done i can only generally think iof 1 STI that is quicker then me and able to pass me in a straight line. The scary thing is many of them do similar times to me....lits only they make time is completely different parts of the track. But its definitely not on the long haul through 4th and 5th gears up past 160km/h.

So call it what you want....but you cant call it rubbish. their low speed traction is flattering to the overall pace of the car. Anyway...

Very well said and very true.

My friend works on a Lamborghini VT Diablo here in town, up to about 100km/h its nothing too flash and most slightly modified cars would destroy it from a set of traffic lights, however once it starts getting past that speed into its top end its got unbelivable torque and keeps climbing to 270+ where most cars start dying past 220.

Different cars made for different purposes at the end of the day. Guess that pretty much sums up the point of this thread completely.

It was a generalisation.

a joke.

you know.. like me being a greasy wog (which I would be if I had hair)

The mods have already had there say.. so who are you to stand on the soap box and try to tell me what's right or wrong?

If you haven't already sent a complaint to a mod about it, then maybe you should.

maybe the power of one can get me banned.

until then, you keep posting boring videos.

You know. GTST, i like you. Ive found you to be a funny guy in the past and youve never given me any reason to comment negatively about anything youve said. I live in japan. You knew that right. I personally found your post hurtful as my wife is Japanese and im glad shes thin.

If you cant accept that, well what can i do?

Yeah its bullshit that they hassle us, I dont understand it. They keep adding more power shitter fuel economy and more weight so it just evens itself out. Still runs a 13 second pass so they still cant get things right. I work for them and know how much shortcuts they take thats why the VE is such shit build quality half the parts are made from korea, Anyway not going to rant about them as im not biased but still with that much power you would expect the thing to move and not pay $40 of petrol to get down the street.

Given that you are from Melbourne, i assume you work at the engine plant. If that is true, what would you know about the build quality of a VE? Any random bogan walking down the street in Brisbane or Perth probably knows more about the build quality and process of the VE than you do. I worked at the Elizabeth plant and have driven hundreds of these things ranging from bog standard Omegas, through to GTS/Senators, right up to the best you can get, the SS Caprice and Caprice Royale that go to the middle east. The build quality is excellent, keeping in mind this is a mass produced family sedan, and it is still in series 1. The chassis and engineering underpinning the VE is very solid, and they handle excellently, as any one of 50 magazines attest to, and can take mass HP no problem. What more do you want from a family sedan? The SS ute and sedan are absolute weapons even before tweaking them. On average, the SS is making ~290kw at the engine (~230rwkw), straight from the factory, quite a bit more than what Holden quote. Exhaust, CAI, retune, a nice easy 330+kw.

Don't knock the VE, particularly the V8's, until you've driven one for a while. Sure, it's no GTR (i had a 32 GTR), but then, it was never meant to be. The new Camaro is based on the VE architecture. Forget the VT-VZ, the VE is a different beast entirely.

Yes, alot of the parts come from Asia....welcome to the automotive industry mate.

You know. GTST, i like you. Ive found you to be a funny guy in the past and youve never given me any reason to comment negatively about anything youve said. I live in japan. You knew that right. I personally found your post hurtful as my wife is Japanese and im glad shes thin.

If you cant accept that, well what can i do?

Mate I don't care where you live, or what race you married.

if you want to be a sensitive bitch because someone made a generalization joke, then that is your problem.

Mods have spoken, I've been informed it was not on, I apologized.

tell me something.

what do you think of islamic terrorists who destroyed the twin towers, or the ones on the subway explosions, or the ones on the bus in UK.

Do you see me get my panties in a knot when people put hate on them cause I happen to be of the same religion?

Man the f**k up!

I don't think there has been one instant on this forum where I have made a serious comment.

you obviously didn't know this even though....

i like you. Ive found you to be a funny guy in the past and youve never given me any reason to comment negatively about anything youve said.

so you would have known that it was a wise arse remark to get a chuckle.

but no. Just because you live there and happen to be married to a Japanese girl, you decided that me calling them skinny somehow effected you.

well here you go.

I'm sorry it hurt your feelings.

I hope that your wife is OK and that it hasn't made her feel uncomfortable in anyway.

:rolleyes:

For future reference.

Please don't say "ANYTHING" about Aussies, muslims, lebs, iraqies etc.

I happen to know some people who are from all of those races and I will get upset

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i say god damm this thread as gone so far off course, seriously if get offeneded that easily m3gtr u really should stay off the net...... seriously..................

anyways back on topic..................... HOLDENS RULE...SKYLINES DIE........... that should get us back on path, fire ur non racist comments at me

im bending over n waiting LMAO

Whats that saying about rocks and people is glass houses?

GTSt... not only was your comment about Japanese ppl being thin highly offensive. Your alluding to Aussies being fat farks who cant see their member was equally offensive. Perhaps you and your mates should stay off the internet and instead hit the pubs of Japan, then hit the streets pissed with your cocks out for the camera. That sort of behaviour is so more becoming of someone ready to pass judgement on the conduct/character of others :rolleyes:

... people, dont be that guy running around looking to be offended by peoples innocent comments. :P

I wasnt the only one who wasnt happy with the read.

and "thin" wasnt the word used Roy. Dont try and flower it up.

I wasnt going to say anymore after gtst apologized to me ( and i dont think he was joking ) and that was going to be the end of the story but alas, someone else just HAD to carry on with it.

GTST, alls good mate, thanks for being a good sport about it.

carry on.

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Someone else touched on it earlier in this thread. I wonder if we are getting to the point where legsilation is going to kill off all the factory hot rods as in the 70s?

Im all for the factory punching out these sorts of cars....but it must be getting hard to find places to enjoy them?

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