5 Stud Hubs

[OoskylineoO]

hey guys, just a quick question, i gotta s2 33gts4 and looking to do a 5 stud conversion however i don't want to spend too much as i am only doing it so i can find bigger rims, my question is, if i just fit the hubs + rotors off a 33 gtst, would i also need to get bigger calipers aswell? would the stock calipers still work ok? i understand if i get bigger calipers i will need a another brake booster which leads to more money lol.

also would just changing the hubs + rotors on the rear brakes be the same?

Edited January 18, 2008 by OoskylineoO

[Eug]

the larger diameter rotors will not fit your original calipers.

larger brake booster is ideal yes.

you might need to do some mods to get your inner drum handbrake to work with new rotors (rear)

[H@ME]

the larger diameter rotors will not fit your original calipers.

larger brake booster is ideal yes.

you might need to do some mods to get your inner drum handbrake to work with new rotors (rear)

Hey Eug! because i am doing 5-stud conversion with gts-t rotors and calipers does this mean i also need to get a larger brake booster?

OoskylineoO if i were you i'd be getting the gts-t calipers as well unless you don't want to be spending too muc money you could be blank GTS4 rotors and have them drilled to the 5-stud pattern, so you can use your original calipers..

cheers hame

[Eug]

it's ideal, but not essential.

since you guys aren't doing track work it won't be such a big deal.

[H@ME]

i will be doing minimal track work i think but thanks for letting us know anyhow eug! i'll be painting my calipers today!

[NA_Goodness]

NA Skylines have the same stud patterns as S13 Silvias and 180SXs, right? Then theoretically you can use the conversion plates or what ever they are to convert the stud pattern. Is this possible? Or does it mess around with the off-set to much? Just thought it would be easier and cheaper this way

[OoskylineoO]

thanks for help and suggestions guys, so basically i would just need gtst 2 x front hubs and 2 x rear hubs, replace my 4 stud hubs with these, redrill my stock rotors and im set for new 5 stud rims right?

[steve33]

hey,

im not 100% sure but i think u have to get front hubs off a fwd skyline/stagea. i was gonna do the same thing on my gts4 but everywhere i went said 100bucks so if i end up doin it i will jus redrill the hubs. my mate got it done and it worked a treat. nice and cheap too

[WYTSKY]

hey mate,

name's Adam

I have an r33 gts4-t s1.... in the next few days mine is going to be converted to 5 stud... (i converted mine to turbo about 8 months ago)

you WILL need r33 gtr parts for the front, othernwise the awd system wont work...

I have a suggestion for you.... why not do what I am doing and buy the entire front gtr arms? I know they are hard to find... but its a sh*tload easier... because I have already bought some gtst calipers and rotors and have now fitted them onto the arms.. and now I only need to undo about 3 massive bolts and 3 small ones on the car, pull off the current entire arm with old rotors, calipers, etc still attached.lubricate the appropriate areas, bleed the brakes, bolt everything up and hey presto.. I have 5 studs at the front...

interms of the rear.. unless you already have a hicas lock bar installed or know what you are doing, I would not advise to do it, because I am told that if you take off everything in the rear, right down to hubs( to change them over obveously) the hicas steering stuffs up and you will end up crab walking. thats why I am paying someone else to do the rear ( which is only $250 labour)

also.. don't bother re drilling your current stuff to fit, it will probably cost more and alot more effort to do then just spending 200-300 buying someone else's rotors and callipers.

i looked around on this website and I bought a full set of turbo callipers for roughly $120- $150 ? and 50 bux for a full set of rotors that have plenty meat left on them...

so think about a few other options.

Regards,

Adam

[Chi100188]

alright well here i go......well basically i had in mind of this i converted my car to turbo ...its a R33 GTS S1....i bought Turbo front rotors got them professionally redrilled to 4 stud slapped them on the front and i did the same for the rear but a work shops going to put them on so yeah i didn't have to go to the extent in buying new rims etc etc redrilling costed me 40 for 2 front rotors and yes must upgrade brake booster hehe i woudl well im goign to

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[H@ME]

alright well here i go......well basically i had in mind of this i converted my car to turbo ...its a R33 GTS S1....i bought Turbo front rotors got them professionally redrilled to 4 stud slapped them on the front and i did the same for the rear but a work shops going to put them on so yeah i didn't have to go to the extent in buying new rims etc etc redrilling costed me 40 for 2 front rotors and yes must upgrade brake booster hehe i woudl well im goign to

Ahh cool, i doing the conversion as well but don't want to buy new rims (alothough i put them up for sale, to see what'd happen) check my user name. So where did u get the rotors redrilled? hame

[OoskylineoO]

hey mate,

name's Adam

I have an r33 gts4-t s1.... in the next few days mine is going to be converted to 5 stud... (i converted mine to turbo about 8 months ago)

you WILL need r33 gtr parts for the front, othernwise the awd system wont work...

I have a suggestion for you.... why not do what I am doing and buy the entire front gtr arms? I know they are hard to find... but its a sh*tload easier... because I have already bought some gtst calipers and rotors and have now fitted them onto the arms.. and now I only need to undo about 3 massive bolts and 3 small ones on the car, pull off the current entire arm with old rotors, calipers, etc still attached.lubricate the appropriate areas, bleed the brakes, bolt everything up and hey presto.. I have 5 studs at the front...

interms of the rear.. unless you already have a hicas lock bar installed or know what you are doing, I would not advise to do it, because I am told that if you take off everything in the rear, right down to hubs( to change them over obveously) the hicas steering stuffs up and you will end up crab walking. thats why I am paying someone else to do the rear ( which is only $250 labour)

also.. don't bother re drilling your current stuff to fit, it will probably cost more and alot more effort to do then just spending 200-300 buying someone else's rotors and callipers.

i looked around on this website and I bought a full set of turbo callipers for roughly $120- $150 ? and 50 bux for a full set of rotors that have plenty meat left on them...

so think about a few other options.

Regards,

Adam

mmm, would I HAVE TO by the front arms off a r33 gtr?, how much would they cost?. Basically converting a 33gts4 to 5stud i would need 33 gtr rotors, calipers and hubs for the front? do I also need brake cylinder and booster off a gtr? or will a gtst 1 do? what about the back? would a set of hubs calipers and rotors off a gtst do? any adjustments of the hand brake?

sorry, imma bit of a noob with this ><

[WYTSKY]

Lol, dw mate, im noob too.... just played around with these things a lil and done some research

I pretty much did the front myself, but I have an exam in 3 days and i lost time, so I ended up putting it all back together ( well enough to drive a km) and took it to the tuners and spent the extra $150 getting them to do the front aswell... wasent that much in the end....

Car is running great atm, no probs at all.. looks sweet... rims soon enough, after I get a new turbo...

onto ur q's...

1.If u were to buy arms they would have to be off a gtr, or a gts4 converted to a 5 stud, possibly stega?not 100% sure but I thought some of them are AWD aswell...

you could buy mine that are now off the car and for sale and get some gtst front hubs and convert them easily while off the car.(hint hint  )

2. I paid a fair coin for the 33 gtr arms... can't remeber exactly.. but I think in the region of $500.. but mine were mint, barely any rust etc.. don't know how much you could find them for, very hard to find in the first instance!

3. you don't need the 33 gtr rotors,calipers and hubs for the front, I used all 33 gtst gear and was perfect. (I picked up all the rotors for 50 bux and full set of calipers with some pads on them for $200)

4. I was worried about the brake cylinder/booster problem as well... was absolutely fine on my car.. I don't know what the fuss is all about.. it is exactly the same...

5. for the back.. I paid 250 for the hubs and I already mentioned the rotors and calipers.

6. nothing has happend to the handbrake, what are you worried about?

hope this helps.

Adam

[OoskylineoO]

thanks for the write up, so your saying i wouldn't need r33 gtr parts at all?, simply just all hubs, rotors, calipers from a gtst, bring them all to mechanic and let the do the work?

[R34GTFOUR]

Just for a bit of side info, my r34 gtfour uses the exact same calipers and brake pads as the na r33, but mine is 5 stud. So if you managed to get the 5 stud hubs, you could just order my rotors then you can keep your stock calipers and pads.

Of course you wont be "upgrading" your braking abilities, but if your just chasing the 5 stud for rim purposes then this maybe cheaper for you.

[Eug]

Just for a bit of side info, my r34 gtfour uses the exact same calipers and brake pads as the na r33, but mine is 5 stud. So if you managed to get the 5 stud hubs, you could just order my rotors then you can keep your stock calipers and pads.

Of course you wont be "upgrading" your braking abilities, but if your just chasing the 5 stud for rim purposes then this maybe cheaper for you.

that's a very interesting tip!

most 4 stud rims won't clear the bigger brakes anyway.

[H@ME]

/\ yep this is true, i can tell you first hand!

[WYTSKY]

thanks for the write up, so your saying i wouldn't need r33 gtr parts at all?, simply just all hubs, rotors, calipers from a gtst, bring them all to mechanic and let the do the work?

Well, estentially, yes.

I think the reason I went with the whole arms on the front was just because it was abit cheaper or the same price to change the whole arm as oppose to just the studs, also because it was a stroke of luck that they happend to have a 33 gtr front half cut at the time...

[OoskylineoO]

Thanks!,

If the conversion is done for the rear, would it definately stuff the HICAS steering?, if it is true can anybody recommend me a mechanic in sydney that would KNOW what they are dealing with when doing the conversion?