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I will happily sacrifice a lamb for jeebus if he builds me a nice 3.5km track. even if the damn thing is in newcastle!

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What is wrong with newcastle?

It would be good for me, no more car floating whooo.

You Mexicans are lucky, in Q we have boring QR and half a day away Morgan Park, and thats it. I would commit serious crime to get a run at Phillip Island or Eastern Creek without taking the week off to do it. It constantly shits me that every proposed track in Q disappears eventually, Q the motorsport arsehole state.

Sorry for the rant, not :rolleyes:

You know, that honestly is the main reason we haven't moved up there. I can't beleve so many taxi teams test at QR it doesn't really seem ideal.

Isn't lakeside open again or about to be?

But the real mexicans (vics) have it pretty good, Phillip Island, Sandown and Winton, and Mallala and AIR aren't *that* far away for them.

Lakeside is a string of press releases, the way things are going we'll be lucky to do a lap there next year. Its all about $ surprise surprise, being leasehold I guess makes it hard to attract capital.

Lots of S'car teams based in Q adds absolutely nothing to the local motorsport infrastructure, blood suckers :rolleyes:

And Mr Oran Park has committed to replacing it with another track (towards Camden last I heard). No firm date on when yet but l hope that comes through - it will be a full proper race track.

Really glad to hear that. I'm just at a point in my life when I am really starting to appreciate having a track close by (I'm about 30min from Oran Park) and then I find out that it's going to be closed to make way for housing! :rolleyes:

Does anyone know any more about the Oran Park replacement?

It was bought bought by the guys who own Winton, down in Victoria.

Wakefield's new "speed off the streets" license is an Australian AutoSport Alliance one, and the President of the AASA is the CEO of Winton.

Wakefield (and Winton) are not owned by "guys down in Victoria", both tracks are owned by the Benalla Auto Club, a car club like many thousands across Australia, believe me I know, I was a committee member with BAC for a couple of years until recently (actually I was there when the purchase of Wakefield was approved by the Committee).

BAC employs Managment Companies to run each track, Winton Motor Raceway Pty Ltd and Wakefield Park Raceway Pty Ltd are the companies that manage each site on behalf of BAC.

The CEO of Winton Motor Raceway Pty Ltd, Mick Ronke is also the President of the AASA, there is no real mangment structure to AASA as they see their role as just supplying insurance and a sanctioning role to motorsport, not the running of of motorsport like CAMS does.

Edited by Big Trev

How did BAC start up and grow to the size needed to be in a situation to have that sort of capital? They've done very well as a car club to be able to invest in things such as race tracks :worship:

PM me if you prefer

How did BAC start up and grow to the size needed to be in a situation to have that sort of capital? They've done very well as a car club to be able to invest in things such as race tracks :wave:

PM me if you prefer

Helps that they've been around forover 50yrs

BB

What is wrong with newcastle?

It would be good for me, no more car floating whooo.

well nothing wrong with newcastle per se. apart from the fact that it's 2 hours north of sydney.

As was said, the club celebrated thier 50th birthday last year.

They started with a dirt track south of Mansfield and north of Benalla at Bajarg, then managed to acquire some land in the Winton township, they built a dirt track around the Winton cricket ground (now turn 6 or the Sweeper).

They used to run motorkaha's etc there.

A number of then Commitee members took mortages out on their homes and started developing the site further.

I am not sure when, but it wass decided to employ a Management company, as banks, etc get nervous about lending good sums of money to Clubs, because Clubs come and Clubs go every day.

With money borrowed against the then facilty they started to grow, and as they say the rest is history, and fo course with the asset growing in value, more money was borrowed and on it goes until today.

The make a average profit from the V8's, so they don't rely on them for the majority of their income, it is the club/facility hires, the smaller meetings where the money is made.

It is one of the only tracks in Australia that has been constantly re-investing it's own money in the infra-structure, nearly all other development at other tracks is very small or is paid for with State or Federal Government money.

This re-investing is evident when you talk to people who have been going there for year, the multi-million dollar extension to the track, which included the magnificent pits, race control, media centre, corporate centre, etc.

Last year $300,000 was spent upgrading power to the main pit garages and also to the camp ground opposite the pits.

Winton would not be in a position is in today if it wasn't for the very careful and clever guidance of the Winton CEO Mick Ronke. many have varied opinions of Mick, but believe me Winton is what it is today because of Mick.

AASA bring cheaper motorsport to Australians is a Mick Ronke (and Bob Jane) brain child.

Indeed many people have varied opinions of Ronkey......not that I have ever had a run in with him.

But I do know a couple of clubs are no longer wanting to run at Wakey and I believe all of the Wakey staff have walked because of him.

LAKESIDE !! I hope it will be ready as we have booked a day later this year to do some driver training.

As was said, the club celebrated thier 50th birthday last year.

They started with a dirt track south of Mansfield and north of Benalla at Bajarg, then managed to acquire some land in the Winton township, they built a dirt track around the Winton cricket ground (now turn 6 or the Sweeper).

They used to run motorkaha's etc there.

A number of then Commitee members took mortages out on their homes and started developing the site further.

I am not sure when, but it wass decided to employ a Management company, as banks, etc get nervous about lending good sums of money to Clubs, because Clubs come and Clubs go every day.

With money borrowed against the then facilty they started to grow, and as they say the rest is history, and fo course with the asset growing in value, more money was borrowed and on it goes until today.

The make a average profit from the V8's, so they don't rely on them for the majority of their income, it is the club/facility hires, the smaller meetings where the money is made.

It is one of the only tracks in Australia that has been constantly re-investing it's own money in the infra-structure, nearly all other development at other tracks is very small or is paid for with State or Federal Government money.

This re-investing is evident when you talk to people who have been going there for year, the multi-million dollar extension to the track, which included the magnificent pits, race control, media centre, corporate centre, etc.

Last year $300,000 was spent upgrading power to the main pit garages and also to the camp ground opposite the pits.

Winton would not be in a position is in today if it wasn't for the very careful and clever guidance of the Winton CEO Mick Ronke. many have varied opinions of Mick, but believe me Winton is what it is today because of Mick.

AASA bring cheaper motorsport to Australians is a Mick Ronke (and Bob Jane) brain child.

Thanks very much for that :D

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