VB- Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 a stock supra with good tyres will beat a stock GTR with crap tyres yes Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-32U Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 he may have been on better tyres.. but they were still street tyres. You cant beat an rx7 on street tyres and the 7 does indeed handle better. Its just chassis design more than anything else.Dude, im a regular track person and as much as i hate to say this coz its kinda embarrasing on my behalf as well as most other people, but a supra doesnt even own my shitty lil civic on a technical track like winton.. its smallish, has lots of tight corners. Last time i went there were 2 supras, a black one with major mods, big turbo (T67 trust) and suspension work and wheels and everything else.. the usual stuff.. and a silver one with minor mods.. exhaust pods thats probably about it. Neither kept up around the bends... I only had suspenion mods, a cam and had my twin carbies rejetted, brakes and a set of wheels. I owned both of them. and ur tellin me a stock supra will beat a gtr around a track?? f**k off Yep its sure a shame that people dont use cars like Supras and even RX7s for circuit work...I have never seen either at Wakefield...but I am sure they do get used in Japan..Here these cars end up getting lowered to the bump stops and 24inch wheels fitted, resprayed hot pink and 300kg of In car entertainment fitted...Really pointless shit.."Hey if you cant hear me coming from 6 blocks away then with my stupid paint and wheels you cant miss seeing me"...These cars mostly end up with "self " enthusiasts..not Car enthusiasts...big shame. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trikdoutvl Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 gtr-32u---- wats wrong with driveing a bling bling import when considering 99 percent of the time ur gonna use those bling bling mods in day to fulli siking on the strees as opposed to doing engine mods that u use for half a day once or twice a month.. the world needs both Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-32U Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 gtr-32u---- wats wrong with driveing a bling bling import when considering 99 percent of the time ur gonna use those bling bling mods in day to fulli siking on the strees as opposed to doing engine mods that u use for half a day once or twice a month.. the world needs both Performance car and bling bling do not ( should not ) go together. One defeats the purpose of the other. I dont mind Bling Bling on the correct type of car. Hummers and Chrysler 300c look great in Bling...as do some of the Lexus range....but to do this to a great performance car like an RX7 or Supra is really Bastardising the car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TezGT-R Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Performance car and bling bling do not ( should not ) go together. One defeats the purpose of the other. I dont mind Bling Bling on the correct type of car. Hummers and Chrysler 300c look great in Bling...as do some of the Lexus range....but to do this to a great performance car like an RX7 or Supra is really Bastardising the car + 11ty Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM-R33 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 +2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3668686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazman Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dude, im a regular track person and as much as i hate to say this coz its kinda embarrasing on my behalf as well as most other people, but a supra doesnt even own my shitty lil civic on a technical track like winton.. Dude, FFS... have you thought , maybe, just maybe those guys were crap drivers? or just having fun not trying to be hero's? or just enjoying the day and didnt want any damage to theyre cars? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3669556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK33T Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 supras aren't crap ... Anyone who has watched the ultimate inline 6 battle would know this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiTWaIhLNw Tsuchiya loved the Amuse supra I think his exact words were 'supra is great' and 'toyota should really consider not ending the production of these things'. If the drift king says that supras are ok then I suppose they must be. Ultimately though the scale goes like this ... 1. 34 GTR 2. 32 GTR 3. 33 GTR 4. Supra 5. GTT 6. 33 and 32 GTS-t 7. NA supra p.s. what happened to the guy who started this thread Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3669633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basti Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 1. 34 GTR2. 33 GTR 3. 32 GTR 4. Supra 5. GTT 6. 33 and 32 GTS-t 7. NA supra fixed /stir Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3669637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK33T Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) the other thing that was really cool about the amuse supra was that it was only lightly tuned it only had some suspension mods and a turbine kit ... it had stock injectors and i think also a stock clutch. not bad IMO Edited February 24, 2008 by BLK33T Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3669641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblebee Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 it had 600hp.. thats not lightly tuned. thats fairly tuned with injectors and a clutch done As for the list.. everyone knows the R33 GTR is the worst GTR ever made. Im with the 1st list Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK33T Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 ^^ Ahhh I see I just thought that it was odd because he said that if someone had money to do more he would recommend they change the clutch and/or injectors thought he was refering to replacing the stock items R33 GTR is not a bad car ... its a great daily and still quite quick around the track and drag strip yes? but not as raw as the 32 and 34 <--- the 34 i've never driven so can't really comment on that however. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sudakov Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Performance car and bling bling do not ( should not ) go together. One defeats the purpose of the other. I dont mind Bling Bling on the correct type of car. Hummers and Chrysler 300c look great in Bling...as do some of the Lexus range....but to do this to a great performance car like an RX7 or Supra is really Bastardising the car I think the RX7 suits nicely for both styles. Cant say the same for the Supra though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieneedsboost Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) ^^ Ahhh I seeI just thought that it was odd because he said that if someone had money to do more he would recommend they change the clutch and/or injectors thought he was refering to replacing the stock items You would be right.. The Amuse supra did NOT have 600hp. It was probably closer to 400rwhp. It still ran stock fuel system and clutch. The Amuse GT30 Turbine kit bolts onto the factory exhaust manifold as far as I am aware. I want to have a similar car one day but with a 35R and around 500rwhp. Just need to learn how to drive first Edited February 24, 2008 by eddieneedsboost Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK33T Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Still no word on what happened to the fella that started the thread? ... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33cruiser Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 that sounds sweet eddieneedsboost Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLaQ.bOi Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 supras, there gay standard exterior wise.. they lok liek thier smiling.. who wants a f**king car that looks like it came from the movie "cars" with a smile ya want a car that looks liek it guna run you over and do a burnout on your guts inside its gay, unles you like starwars and want a cockpit of an interior with everything facing you... that being said nissan interiors are unstylish and borrring (refering to silvias s13 s14 skylines r32 r33) supras do have one over a skyline the engine a 2jz is the tuffest engine going around i did some work with a very good engine builder, a master with 2jz's he recently got a gtr so we tore the engine apart of a gtr the build quality in almost everything in a supra compared to a gtr.. well is unbelieveable better! strong engines the supra engines are! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3670916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VB- Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 if you think supras are ugly, your opinion doesnt matter lol jk and i cant see a GT30 being bolt on to the standard supra manifolds, do they use an adapter manifold from the two factory flanges to a T3 flange? and how do they go about killing the factory sequential setup, electronic or permanent? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3671193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elGTR Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Seriously guys, most of you guys have no idea of what you are talking about, the tt supra deserves some serious respect and so does the rx7 they are both beautiful cars and thy both have their strong and weak points, what ive noticed about skyline owners is that they are very biased and there is nothing better than skylines. In my opinion the tt supra will always be the better car in almost every department, as for some people saying that the gtr is a race breed car come on seriously i wouldnt call something that has so many issues such as (oil starvation and more) a race breed car, where as the supra is relly built tough to be abused more like a race car if yo tell me. I know of 2 certain 10sec gtrs in this forum that have been munched by stock engine supras running semi- slick street tyres, as for traction a pair of some slick tyres will fix that problem. Supra with good rubber and stock engine = GTR having to fully rebuild box and engine just to keep up to the supra anywhere track or drag. eg, Amuse supra. Thank you, Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3673609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-32U Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Seriously guys, most of you guys have no idea of what you are talking about, the tt supra deserves some serious respect and so does the rx7 they are both beautiful cars and thy both have their strong and weak points, what ive noticed about skyline owners is that they are very biased and there is nothing better than skylines. In my opinion the tt supra will always be the better car in almost every department, as for some people saying that the gtr is a race breed car come on seriously i wouldnt call something that has so many issues such as (oil starvation and more) a race breed car, where as the supra is relly built tough to be abused more like a race car if yo tell me. I know of 2 certain 10sec gtrs in this forum that have been munched by stock engine supras running semi- slick street tyres, as for traction a pair of some slick tyres will fix that problem. Supra with good rubber and stock engine = GTR having to fully rebuild box and engine just to keep up to the supra anywhere track or drag. eg, Amuse supra. Thank you, well as for engine strength and durability I do agree with you.As For drags ...well some quick here, some quick there..but Supra is better suited for this...But for an all out circuit animal....Sorry but I will still favour the GTR as the winner....Sure the Supra got enormous potential..But seriously the Skyline has had soooo much development work with Suspension...And as the power envelope gets pushed further on the circuit the Skylines all wheel drive shows its advantages more so...I dont really see much for Supras competing in Tsukuba time attack..and this is THE event for circuit cars in Japan.....Look how fast the Garage Saurus R32 is...absolute Rocket.But hell the supra definately makes for one mean ass SOB of a street car...piss the twin turbos off and go a big single and its got butts to kick Edited February 25, 2008 by GTR-32U Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/203849-help-me-defend-the-skyline-pride/page/14/#findComment-3673659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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