Help Me Defend The Skyline Pride

[GTR-32U]

hey if I won Lotto it would definately be high on my car list...Unfortunately they are just not practical if it means you need to transport more than one passenger.Great playtoy though

[r33cruiser]

nothing beats the high burble coming from the exhaust of a 2j.

f**king awesome after 2500rpm, freaking F1 exhaust tone. i would sell my line in a second if someone offered me a good supra.

but that in mind. i imagine the maintenance and running costs would be more than a line. if your lucky tho and get the vvt-i model expect 400+kms to a tank.

(im just basing that on a mates 2j soarer )

Edited February 3, 2008 by r33cruiser

[TTT]

F1 exhaust tone?

you're still talking about 2jz right?

[lingeringsoul]

I've never heard a 2J burble before.....one cylinder down maybe?

[DRD-00F]

Everyone I know who owns, or has owned a supra, is a tool...

Even my auntie...

[N1GTR]

nothing beats the high burble coming from the exhaust of a 2j.

f**king awesome after 2500rpm, freaking F1 exhaust tone. i would sell my line in a second if someone offered me a good supra.

but that in mind. i imagine the maintenance and running costs would be more than a line. if your lucky tho and get the vvt-i model expect 400+kms to a tank.

(im just basing that on a mates 2j soarer )

Shame you dont have a stockish 32GTR, cause im happy to swap my supra for another gtr

Everyone I know who owns, or has owned a supra, is a tool...

Even my auntie...

[Sydneykid]

Those who complain about the weight of the supra are totally misinformed, the supra weighs 1510kg go and check the weight of an r33 or 34 gtr and you will get a surprise.

Make up your mind. A 2wd GTST is minimum 200 kgs lighter, a GTR has 4wd. The Supra is 2wd and weighs as much as a 4wd.

The 2JZ shits all over the RB26 for strength, durability and potential.

Which part of the 2JZ? The exhaust manifold is shit, the inlet manifold is arguably the worst design on a performance engine ever, the valve train gear is very average to say the least. I'd put an RB26 block up against one any day, same for the crank. That's a lot of dissadvantages that are only offset by a $600 set of rods and $800 worth of pistons. BIG DEAL.

The six throttlebody manifold on the RB26 is a beautiful thing but is a negligable advantage in the overall scheme of things. Lets face it, that extra .4 of a litre more than makes up for those throttle bodies.

Impossible, the throttle bodies are all about response, the 0.4 litre does nothing for that. In fact the longer stroke (where the 0.4 litre comes from) is arguably worse for that.

The 6 speed Getrag is near invinceable, there are supras popping the front wheels off the ground run after run will over 1000rwhp and still standing upto the power, torque and abuse on an unopened gearbox. It is possible to break one but very rare all the same unlike anything nissan.

R34GTR's have the same gearbox

Yes the stock turbos are a pain in the ass. but there are many options if you are a switched on supra owner. There are many supras running high flowed steel wheeled twins making 320+rwkw. My cousins does 327rwkw on US spec factory turbos, there is now also a manufacturer who replaces the standard cartridge with a GT28R cartridge not to mention the number of single turbo kits available.

Stock standard R34GTR turbos shit all them.

Traction issues, what traction issues??? You can fit 325's on the rear just by rolloing the lip and getting the right offset.

Do the numbers, 315 x 2 = 630 mm, compared to 265 x 4 = 1060 mm.

Let's see a full weight manual Supra do 8's on radials.

By the way, its just not a fair comparison. The supra so far above the gtst(which was the original caomparison remember?) its not fair to compare.

What are you comparing? GTST's or GTR's, you can't selectively swap between them to score points. An R32GTST is almost 250 kgs lighter than a Supra. You can't make that up, especially when you stick an RB30 in the R32GTST. A GTR is 4wd, you can't compare a 2wd (that weighs the same), the 4wd wins hands down every time.

Supra Vs Gtr, well they are chalk and cheese and both have their strong and weak points.

The Supra has two strong points, rods and pistons. That leaves 3,000 odd points in favour of the GTR.

I am not biased, i am experienced and have owned the cars in question plus many others and if i wanted many miles of trouble free enjoyable driving(sometimes a little spirited) then i would pick the supra. Skylines, including gtr's(the r34 less so) are just too expensive to make strong, reliable and powerful.

I have been on circuits all over Australia with R32/33/34's since 1990 and I have not been beaten once, not one single time, not ever by a Supra. We raced a Supra for 3 years, developed it as much as we could and the R32GTR was 5 seconds a lap faster than it's best, on the GTR's first day out.

Cheers

Gary

[GTS4WD]

Man.. who cares?

Let him talk smack..

The Skyline vs Supra riot has been going on for many many years now mate..

Build a bridge and get over it.. if your "mate" is such a top bloke why would you care what he sais anyways?

[DRD-00F]

I believe this is in order...

[GTS4WD]

Man.. who cares?

Let him talk smack..

The Skyline vs Supra riot has been going on for many many years now mate..

Build a bridge and get over it.. if your "mate" is such a top bloke why would you care what he sais anyways?

[Public Enemy]

I have been on circuits all over Australia with R32/33/34's since 1990 and I have not been beaten once, not one single time, not ever by a Supra. We raced a Supra for 3 years, developed it as much as we could and the R32GTR was 5 seconds a lap faster than it's best, on the GTR's first day out.

Cheers

Gary

sums it all up nicely

[RBwhatever]

Someone shut this thread down

[VB-]

i dont see how its possible to develope a car so far, and have it be beaten by 5 seconds on the GTR's first outing, not doubting it happened, but there is certainly something being left out, 5 seconds is HUGEE

and you'd like to see a supra do 8's on radials? they're already into the sevens mate (MSP did 7.8), 3300+pounds which i would deem full weight. a few have done 8's with stock 6 speed, Titan did 7.94 on stock 6 speed

as for traction in drag racing purposes, just find me how many skylines are running 9 sec passes on any tires, i have a list of 63 supras in the US alone that are doing 9's, and thats not even trying to find them, granted quite a few are on slicks, but there are heaps on radials too

i would also like to know what makes you say the inlet manifold on the supra is so crap? i've seen heaps of big horsepower cars using them succesfully

[mazman]

Everyone I know who owns, or has owned a supra, is a tool...

Even my auntie...

wow,you must hang with lots of tools then! what a f**ken stupid comment...

[POLICE]

Can't believe this thread's still going, as if reading the topic title isn't bad enough

"Help me, my friend thinks his Supra is better than my Skyline, I don't know what to think"

[lingeringsoul]

There is much confusion in this thread.................I dn't even know what we are comparing anymore.

[PM-R33]

There is much confusion in this thread.................I dn't even know what we are comparing anymore.

Penis size, him and his mate were arguing over who has the larger penis. I for one believe i have the larger penis.

Yeah im really bored at the moment.

[Kinks]

Someone shut this thread down

why? it's funny. people who feel inadequate to the point where they have to put down someone else's car in order to justify their own choice amuse me.

[MFC05]

i would take a supra over a skyline anyday at the end of the day supras are more superior cars than skylines expect for GTRs

[GTR-32U]

i would take a supra over a skyline anyday at the end of the day supras are more superior cars than skylines expect for GTRs

Much what I was thinking...Supra is definately the better car than a GTST...GTR is my idol however...But I still wanna see supras doin quick circuit times...Their drag times and engine power impress the hell out of me..Why doesnt anybody circuit race them ?