Remote Start Alarms

[rubzy]

ne1 rate these alarms you can get like the boomerang that have the remote start and tell you from like a km away that your alarm is going off and what door they've opened to get into your car when it's broken into and stuff with em. I've got something similar but i haven't installed it into my 33 cos i wanted to put it into my next car or was considering selling it on here. Haven't heard much on here bout em so was wondering if many ppl on these forums had one at all.

[32 4whore]

Remote Starting devices are illegal. like turbo timers.

But besides that they are a good idea.

But just my opinion. If someone wants ur car they will take it.

[Madaz]

i like remote start i think boomerang are possibly the worst brand

most dont do a full km and mostly its line of sight

[bezender]

yeah +1

in relation to the remote start, its illegal to leave a car running unattended, therefore remote starting devices are illegal. Also timers are illegal for that reason and the fact that they may keep a car running after an accident.

in really cold countries they are great, cos they can get ur car warmed up, and also get ur heater goin (common place in canada).

[Ryanrb25]

keep it real people, who really gives a feck whats illegal or not, virtually anything we do these days is illegal, technically pullin ya dik is illegal.

anyway

I got a Rhino remote start/turbotimer yadda yadda yadda, it works real well etc, tell ya if ya left your handbrake off, doors open, boot, bonnet, temp, whatever, bit of a wank factor the remote start.

like 32 4whore said, no matter what you car has in it, what its tied to, whats blocking it, if they want it, they'll take it.

Edited February 3, 2008 by Ryanrb25

[Nightcrawler]

There are no words for how much I love to start my car on a really hot day and get the a/c cranking 5 minutes before I go and get in it. Vice versa in winter.

Plus I have to turn out onto a main road within 1.5km of leaving my house every day, so do the remote start for at least 5 mins before I leave home (while I am still getting ready) - otherwise I would flog it while still cold to make it into traffic. Yes I have no patience to warm it up - and couldn't do so properly in 1.5km anyhow.

[Madaz]

^^ here here i too love to drive into traffic

[andz]

im paranoid about leaving it still in 1st gear the night before and use remote start the next day

i like the auto window windup when u arm the car

steven, get back to work

[Madaz]

Lol andy i left mine in gear once lucky i park very close to a fence with a little give

**cough**cough** write me a sick note andy

[Nightcrawler]

If the alarm has been wired up properly it should have a neutral sensor - so it CAN'T start when in gear.

[Bl4cK32]

  Ryanrb25 said:

keep it real people, who really gives a feck whats illegal or not

i care more about the fact that the car would still be pumping fuel into the engine bay if your upside down (or just generally trapped) still in the car unconscious...

Edited February 4, 2008 by Bl4cK32

[andz]

  Madaz said:

**cough**cough** write me a sick note andy

not in effect yet

[Nightcrawler]

  Bl4cK32 said:

i care more about the fact that the car would still be pumping fuel into the engine bay if your upside down (or just generally trapped) still in the car unconscious...

a common misconception. With any turbo timer that is properly installed the turbo timer will stop working if:

1. Handbrake is not on - why would be your handbrake be fully engaged in any sort of accident?

2. Brake pedal is pressed - who would not hit the brake in any variety of accident/incident

3. Keys are still in the ignition and the ignition is in the on position - unless you physically turn the car off with the keys the turbo timer will not run

So you could NOT have any variety of accident and the turbo timer keep the car running. It is IMPOSSIBLE (short of some catastrophic electrical failure).

Similarly with remote start. With a properly installed system the remote start will not function if:

1. Handbrake is not fully engaged

2. Gear selector is not in neutral (and yes these can/should be fitted to manuals)

3. Brake pedal is pressed

4. Car is put in gear at any stage

So how is remote start dangerous, and illegal? Makes no sense - where is ANY danger?

Oh, and yes Andy I agree - I love my window windup function on my alarm too!

[Bl4cK32]

  Nightcrawler said:

a common misconception. With any turbo timer that is properly installed the turbo timer will stop working if:

1. Handbrake is not on - why would be your handbrake be fully engaged in any sort of accident?

2. Brake pedal is pressed - who would not hit the brake in any variety of accident/incident

3. Keys are still in the ignition and the ignition is in the on position - unless you physically turn the car off with the keys the turbo timer will not run

So you could NOT have any variety of accident and the turbo timer keep the car running. It is IMPOSSIBLE (short of some catastrophic electrical failure).

Impossible means that there would be no chance, but who really knows what will happen in an accident or when?

There are no laws for TTs so all 3 of the things u listed above would be ideal, but how many brands sold have all 3 as a failsafe when installed?

For #2 above there is always the chance that you would be knocked unconscious like i said, which means yer, you would have hit the brake before impact, but then doesnt mean u can still be chomping the pedal when the shit hits..#3 i guess there is the chance as well that in the accident that there would be an electrical failure somewhere...short circuit...who knows..

So i guess even though its more likely to not happen, id still wouldnt rule out that there is no chance at all..

[Nightcrawler]

  Bl4cK32 said:

Impossible means that there would be no chance, but who really knows what will happen in an accident or when?

I said impossible with a disclaimer afterward. But in an accident the car would not stop unless you tuned the key of or the car stopped by its own volition. And if you turned the car off without the handbrake on the turbo timer wouldn't activate anyhow.

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There are no laws for TTs so all 3 of the things u listed above would be ideal, but how many brands sold have all 3 as a failsafe when installed?

As far as I know they are all standard on all turbo timers - all that I have seen anyhow (which would be 6 different brands and models. And I also added if installed correctly

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For #2 above there is always the chance that you would be knocked unconscious like i said, which means yer, you would have hit the brake before impact, but then doesnt mean u can still be chomping the pedal when the shit hits..

You need to not touch the brake pedal, turn the ignition off and put the handbrake fully on for the turbo timer to activate, so this comment doesn't make sense

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#3 i guess there is the chance as well that in the accident that there would be an electrical failure somewhere...short circuit...who knows..

hence my disclaimer short of electrical catastrophe

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So i guess even though its more likely to not happen, id still wouldn't rule out that there is no chance at all..

Same could be said for cruise control, electronic parking sensors, AI computer driving systems like following distance regulators in Mercedes etc .... yet they are not illegal.

Sorry mate, none of your arguments against make ANY sense

[Bl4cK32]

  Nightcrawler said:

I said impossible with a disclaimer afterward. But in an accident the car would not stop unless you tuned the key of or the car stopped by its own volition. And if you turned the car off without the handbrake on the turbo timer wouldn't activate anyhow.

Ok. To say something is impossible (not capable of occurring or being accomplished or dealt with; something that cannot be done) then to say only if in case of a catastrophe doesn't make sense.

  Nightcrawler said:

As far as I know they are all standard on all turbo timers - all that I have seen anyhow (which would be 6 different brands and models. And I also added if installed correctly

Pretty big if, considering most people like to diy, or let a savvy friend do it

  Nightcrawler said:

You need to not touch the brake pedal, turn the ignition off and put the handbrake fully on for the turbo timer to activate, so this comment doesn't make sense

Any large impact throwing the driver unconscious, causing an electrical fault never likely of happening or hasnt happened in the past?

  Nightcrawler said:

hence my disclaimer short of electrical catastrophe

I agreed with u

  Nightcrawler said:

Same could be said for cruise control, electronic parking sensors, AI computer driving systems like following distance regulators in Mercedes etc .... yet they are not illegal.

Im sorry please clarify? I dont understand how parking sensors could make the car run after an accident? AI and Cruise controls are factory fitted in most cases, and if found to be aftermarket would have an affect on insurance claims if they found them to blame in any way. Same as for any mod..

  Nightcrawler said:

Sorry mate, none of your arguments against make ANY sense

No arguments. I agreed with what you said, just added that nothing is impossible.

[Nightcrawler]

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Any large impact throwing the driver unconscious, causing an electrical fault never likely of happening or hasnt happened in the past?

but if the driver were rendered unconscious then the car would continue running after an accident anyhow - nothing to do with a turbo timer ....

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Im sorry please clarify? I dont understand how parking sensors could make the car run after an accident? AI and Cruise controls are factory fitted in most cases, and if found to be aftermarket would have an affect on insurance claims if they found them to blame in any way. Same as for any mod..

I was just pointing out that any failed electrical system could be responsible for the car running on, or causing a fire, etc etc after an accident. Which is the only danger that turbo timers have in that they are an electrical device that could cause things to go wrong. No worse or more dangerous than any of those other completely legal things. Aftermarket cruise control is perfectly legal/insurable fyi. But yes, everything non-factory is technically illegal if we want to split hairs

[rubzy]

OI! You two are taking over this topic with your bickering. He's right how the car won't keep running in an accident anyway so just leave it at that. If you get knocked out while your driving, does it really matter if your car will keep running? If you get knocked out and your driving by yourself your more then likely gonna crash neway!

[rubzy]

  Ryanrb25 said:

keep it real people, who really gives a feck whats illegal or not, virtually anything we do these days is illegal, technically pullin ya dik is illegal.

anyway

I got a Rhino remote start/turbotimer yadda yadda yadda, it works real well etc, tell ya if ya left your handbrake off, doors open, boot, bonnet, temp, whatever, bit of a wank factor the remote start.

like 32 4whore said, no matter what you car has in it, what its tied to, whats blocking it, if they want it, they'll take it.

Never really asked about security wise with the alarm but i do understand that. Just wanted to know if the functions and shit are any good and it sounds good to me. Is there actually someone on these forums that didn't know that turbo timers were illegal anyway? I thought that was a given. If people drive the way they say they do on these forums there isn't really much need for a turbo timer anyway unless it's like a part-time track car or sumfn but i got one neway, just a habit from having one on my last turbo car i guess, kinda convenient sometimes.

[Bl4cK32]

  rubzy said:

OI! You two are taking over this topic with your bickering. He's right how the car won't keep running in an accident anyway so just leave it at that. If you get knocked out while your driving, does it really matter if your car will keep running? If you get knocked out and your driving by yourself your more then likely gonna crash neway!

Whose arguing Simply having a normal discussion as per forum rules without resulting to insults is perfectly fine.

  Nightcrawler said:

but if the driver were rendered unconscious then the car would continue running after an accident anyhow - nothing to do with a turbo timer ....

Yes, but i specifically said

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Any large impact throwing the driver unconscious, causing an electrical fault never likely of happening or hasnt happened in the past?

This is where i would think that the tt might cause the problem

  Nightcrawler said:

I was just pointing out that any failed electrical system could be responsible for the car running on, or causing a fire, etc etc after an accident. Which is the only danger that turbo timers have in that they are an electrical device that could cause things to go wrong. No worse or more dangerous than any of those other completely legal things. Aftermarket cruise control is perfectly legal/insurable fyi. But yes, everything non-factory is technically illegal if we want to split hairs

agreed