My First Strike Of Bad Luck

[Madaz]

Dohmar - has some great advice with regards to knowing your car and what is and isn't legal and how to present that information the the officer

most of the time we get pulled over we panic, we need to teach our selves

1) grab the phone and set it to record mp3 and tell the officer that everything he says and does will be recorded and uses as evidence should the need arise and don't do it in a smug manner

2) get a book out the boot/glove box with ADR standards that we have to comply to

3) tell him your ready for him to inspect your car

I'm guessing if we followed this procedure each and every time we got pulled over Mr. officer would think oh my this guy knows what he's on about

[R33PER]

Well from dohmar's piece it looks like i should file a complaint, as i pointed out to the officer that the pod is secured down to the chassis and also has a cover over the whole pod and he still overrode me saying its illegal while the other more subtle cop wrote on the notice. With regards to the private property thing, is it even legal to perform a vehicle check as they did? Or by my complying with their demands does that change how it would be percieved by someone defending me if i was to complain about the issue as a whole?

I had a family member ring regency and spoke to one of the guys and everything bar the turbo timer, ebc and maybe the exhaust (he said its pretty much by ear, if it sounds too loud) is all legal in the form its in on my car so hopefully this wont be that much of a drama to get my car back on the road. I think i may lose the custom plates aswell otherwise it stands out too much and added visual effect is not something we really need on top of our cars.

Lastly my friends brother is a police officer and said he will get a hold of the booklet for my car in case this happens again so i know where i stand rather than just being told everything is illegal ._. lol. Regarding the whole pen/paper/recording thing, the thought crossed my mind but it seems as though they may think you are trying to outsmart them and if you werent confident enough to do it casually they may come down harder on you for insulting them.

[SLED]

I've read some of the suggestions in this thread.

For what it's worth (maybe nothing) I think some of you are walking a little too close to the flame.

[cruzin33]

If you get defected for somthing like a bigger turbo, turbo timer, ebc the cop is just doing his job. if the cop was being a tool or defecting you for stock parts then lay a complaint and stand up for your right.

[typevu]

What scums! I was walking home just before... approx 3am... down South Rd... 2 cop car goes hooning down past me on the other side of the road(guessing approx 80km/h)... they then chuck a u-turn and hoon past again this time weaving from one lane to the other without indicating then abruptly slows down and turns into a car park without indicating and revving it on the way in. I grabbed my phone out but no luck... I walked past the car park and was a cop fest in there booze/drug bus and all! Must of just finished off for the night and went for a hoon and meet up...

double standards...

Edited February 8, 2008 by vietorious

[Madaz]

its a tough one they only need to find one modified part and then it doesn't matter what else gets put on the slip

[SmittyR33]

There is always one scumbag copper. I got pulled over like that once and also got accused of speeding and doing skids. Little did he know I was on my way to play soccer with the rest of his station. My local police know my car and know me, and pretty much told me this bloke was a clown. That was the last I heard of him. The same bloke booked my best mate for doing a skid at the local shops 1 month after he allegedly commited the offence. Good times, good times.

[Stol]

I see your car around pretty often. I dont know if that a defect is such a bad thing and it will probly go well with the other pretty stickers on it.

[bezender]

I've read some of the suggestions in this thread.

For what it's worth (maybe nothing) I think some of you are walking a little too close to the flame.

+1

prolly not the best idea to contradict the police to any great extent. if they do something wrong, you will have re-course through some other means to make it correct after the fact.

[Dohmar]

+1

prolly not the best idea to contradict the police to any great extent. if they do something wrong, you will have re-course through some other means to make it correct after the fact.

And this is where intimidation/ignorance of due process ends up getting people screwed..

Police will only step it up if you are rude or aggressive. If you're polite and informed, they will follow procedure by the book. Cops hate doing paperwork, and whenever something anomalous happens, they have to fill out twice as much. Im not saying argue with them, but if you know for a fact that something is inaccurate, its your right to tell them so. Politely.

Police enforce the law, that is written legislation, with very specific black and white guidelines. Thats why having the engi/compliance papers in the car doesnt hurt. They don't make it up as they go. At least not the good guys.

-D

[RaBBiT001]

Hey, i live in queensland and i got pulled up and checked and my turbo timer and ebc and that where all fine they said nothin about it. I didn't even know they could get defected. I still got a ticket.

[Dohmar]

Hey, i live in queensland and i got pulled up and checked and my turbo timer and ebc and that where all fine they said nothin about it. I didn't even know they could get defected. I still got a ticket.

Laws in the eastern states are more relaxed than SA's. We have the most anal laws in the country here.

Well aside from Victoria, where it is illegal to wear hot pink shorts after midday on a Sunday...

-D

[R33PER]

Hey, i live in queensland and i got pulled up and checked and my turbo timer and ebc and that where all fine they said nothin about it. I didn't even know they could get defected. I still got a ticket.

After calling regency they said that turbo timer is illegal in South Australia only. Not sure about the ebc though

[SLED]

Police will only step it up if you are rude or aggressive. If you're polite and informed, they will follow procedure by the book. Im not saying argue with them, but if you know for a fact that something is inaccurate, its your right to tell them so. Politely.

Police enforce the law, that is written legislation, with very specific black and white guidelines. Thats why having the engi/compliance papers in the car doesnt hurt. They don't make it up as they go. At least not the good guys.

-D

Sound advice. Courtesy never hurts, but can sometimes help.

If he's borderline about whether to book you or not, what demeanour do you think is going to help you?

[Dohmar]

Sound advice. Courtesy never hurts, but can sometimes help.

If he's borderline about whether to book you or not, what demeanour do you think is going to help you?

RE MP3 players : http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23199580-2,00.html

Looks like this guy got caught on one.

-D

[R33PER]

Well im booked in for friday 2:40pm and i have tomorrow off work so i'll be getting the temp rego / clearance (and explain that regency told me the other things listed are fine) and i'll ring up AAA and see if they are willing to sort me out friday arvo with the exhaust system and it should all be sweet

[*flick*]

Good work! Hopefully AAA will help u out like they did for me.

Good luck, hopefully ya get through first shot!