Contemplating Getting An R32 Gt-r

[r32gtrboss]

OK, in the next few months i am tossing up between getting an R32 GT-R (I have always loved these, since Jim Richards & Mark Skaife used to race them) or an XR6 Turbo

I have seen a couple of threads about which mods to do first FMIC, Exhaust etc...

I would have at least $5k (probably closer to $10k) to spend on mods if i do get the GT-R. What would be advisable to do for under $10k and what kind of results would I achieve? Would it be wise to replace the stock turbo units?

Cheers guys

[GeeTR]

They are two completely different cars.

One will have a warranty, feel like disconnected boat with a stroker diesel.

The other will need constant money spent on it (if driven hard and regularly) Has a tourqless, short stroke motor and attracts the five-oh like flies to shite.

Check the dyno thread for the power / $ spent on mods your looking at.

Seriously, i don't think i could think of two different cars. The Fords are ECU locked and need one of those tricky CAPA thingos and have the build quality... well of an Australian built car.

Inversely, the BNR32 is a tuners dream, and as such, will never be as reliable / cheap to run as a newish TaxiCon.

Don't get me wrong, the boosted falcons are a good thang, but the attributes that would attract you to one, are at ends to a 18year old Japanese import, a GTR none the less.

Try and get a ride in a mild one, as someone correct me if im wrong, but a stock auto XR6 Turbo would KILL a lightly tuned GTR from a rolling start... and keep on doing it.

My biased view ...

Edited February 10, 2008 by GeeTR

[arep3]

i dunno bout that. i dragged a vy-ss that had 10k spend on it. my stock GTR sat next to him the whole time. this was on a drag strip by the way. street racing is illegal

[r32gtrboss]

i dunno bout that. i dragged a vy-ss that had 10k spend on it. my stock GTR sat next to him the whole time. this was on a drag strip by the way. street racing is illegal

That's cuz that is a holden mate

Spend $8k on an XR6T and ur looking at high 11's, nearly 400kW at flywheel.

Cheers for that rundown GeeTR

I have only ever had rides in GT-R's that were anything but mildly tuned! I dont think i have ever been in a stock one at all!

I think stock XR6T's run mid-high 13's, surely GT-R's are quicker than that

[GTR-32U]

dont know where you are getting your info from but XR6 turbos run 14s.My old GTS4 has had many a doorhandle to doorhandle run with them.They are nothing superfast.A stock GTR should beat one.But it all depends on what you want the car for.A GTR would be pretty useless at towing a boat or comfortably seating 5 on a trip.

[r32gtrboss]

dont know where you are getting your info from but XR6 turbos run 14s.My old GTS4 has had many a doorhandle to doorhandle run with them.They are nothing superfast.A stock GTR should beat one.But it all depends on what you want the car for.A GTR would be pretty useless at towing a boat or comfortably seating 5 on a trip.

Definately not looking for towing a boat Just looking for a nice ride. I don't have a family, although i will be getting married in September.. She can have the family car when the young'n comes along.. I just want something to have some fun in!

According to the manufacturer:

BAII/BF F6 Typhoon = 4.9-5.5 0-100km/h, 12.7-13.2 1/4 mile

BA/BAII/BF GT = 5.3-5.8 0-100km/h, 13.3-13.7 1/4 mile

BA/BAII/BF XR8 = 5.7-6.0 0-100km/h, 13.6-14.0 1/4 mile

BA/BAII XR6 Turbo = 5.8-6.2 0-100km/h, 13.8-14.1 1/4 mile

Basically, just get an edit + CAI and your into high 12's in an XR6T

Edited February 10, 2008 by r32gtrboss

[ali-turko]

well wth my r32 gtr, with just an exhaust and pulling the restrictor out i ran 12.5

[Rav]

On the topic of xr6 turbos being reliable when u give it some mods they get some nice numbers, But the diffs and autos are know to faile

[Tomek]

IMO ...

XR6 for hassle free daily driving with some grunt.

GTR for an occasional blast.

[Mr. Keets]

XR6 Sedan would be ok...how about a Typhoon? Seems like a lot of maniacs buy the utes and actually they are becoming the new VL, trying to bait me at the light deal lol

"but a stock auto XR6 Turbo would KILL a lightly tuned GTR from a rolling start... and keep on doing it." Not my lightly tuned GT-R...not even on their best day. Proved it

[r32gtrboss]

XR6 Sedan would be ok...how about a Typhoon? Seems like a lot of maniacs buy the utes and actually they are becoming the new VL, trying to bait me at the light deal lol

"but a stock auto XR6 Turbo would KILL a lightly tuned GTR from a rolling start... and keep on doing it." Not my lightly tuned GT-R...not even on their best day. Proved it

Phoons are bloody awesome, i just dont have enough dosh to get one I think they are circa $40k which is about $10k out of my budget. With my wedding and buying a house coming up, i need that $10k! lol

Just how 'lightly' is your GT-R tuned mate?

[GTR-32U]

Ok with your future circumstances coming up then I would recommend the XR6 Turbo then. Sure its the same price range as the GTR however the XR6 is a newer fresher car.GTRs are getting old and maintenance is critical.If it hasnt already had an engine rebuild chances are it will need one soon.Thats when the big dollars start flying !!! As much of a GTR fanatic as I am, I would only recommend buying one if its a GTR or nothing type of affair. Many cars can be made to go like a rocket not just GTRs...hope that helps

[Bumblebee]

what makes u think a rebuild on a xr6t is cheap?? last one i did was in excess of 6k. and that was just a standard rebuild.

as for xr6t is faster... lol yer ok my 200kw 180sx tore those things apart..

dont compare a race car with number plates to the titanic. numbers on paper are different to numbers in the real world.

im yet to see an xr6t STOCK pull of a 13sec pass @ calder.. yet ive seen plenty of noobie gtr drivers reel off very 13s and hi 12s with no mods...

[SkyDragon]

As GeeTR said, two very different cars.

A diplomatic viewpoint...

r32 GTR - A known legend and a track weapon. However is becoming very old and very hard to find in reasonable condition. Expect to spend a fair amount maintaining such an old car and paying a high insurance premium. Really buy this car for the love of it.

XR6T - Newer generation car that is a glorified sedan with questionable build quality. Certainly some power and responds well to mods. Insurance may be similar but maintainence shouldn't be as high (due to age). Nice creature comforts.

In summary hard to compare, one is RWD and the other RW/AWD when needed. One has two doors the other 4. Plus the 18 year age difference. By the sounds of what YOU need I would go XR6T.

How about considering a 4 door R34GTT? Definitely closer to the mark to an XR6T.

Edited February 10, 2008 by SkyDragon

[VB-]

XR6T would be my pic, effortless power and nice wide torque curve, heaps of power reliably if your chasing it, probly easier to live with/drive every day too

[Scooby]

GTR is inherently a better performance car than the Falcon as they didn't have to compromise to build it and that's why they are still able to hold their own. that said, and not withstanding some reliability issues, if you just want something practical and quickish you probably can't go wrong with a Falcon. but seems like you're prepared to let wifey do the sedan thing so the GTR is a good bet as in 4 years time the Falcon will be an old Falcon and the GTR...is still a GTR.

Buy wisely and there are bargains to be had in terms of cars with rebuilt motors, steel turbos etc. Buy impatiently and you can end up with a money pit. You might need to spend a little to get it sorted so everything works, remove hicas etc and get attesa working properly, but there is enough knowledge on here with people going through the wringer with theirs that the challenges aren't as bad as they used to be.

[r32gtrboss]

im yet to see an xr6t STOCK pull of a 13sec pass @ calder.. yet ive seen plenty of noobie gtr drivers reel off very 13s and hi 12s with no mods...

Really?

I know a few guys who have pulled 13.7-13.9 at WSID in stock auto xr6t's

I love my GTR's.. I suppose it's really going to come down to how much the wedding costs and how much the repayments on the mortgage will be.. lol. I will probably just keep trolling tradingpost.com.au and see if a nice example of a GT-R does pop up.

I appreciate the non-biased comments, i was half expecting people to say how good the GT-R is and how shit the XR6T is, lol.

So any tips when looking to buy a GT-R?

Obviously from what people have said in here is to make sure the engine has been rebuilt, what else?

I saw a nice 92 GT-R with a rebuilt engine and new turbos for $21k only 91000 on ODO

Edited February 10, 2008 by r32gtrboss

[GeeTR]

Keets / Bumble - know what your saying, buuut, I still stick by my comment

A drag race, where you know its coming then yes, R / 200jiggabang 180sx wins; drop 2 gears, bang bang - done.

In real life, your forgetting though, those XR6 Maniacs are sneaky tradies. With their stock exhausts, they creep up so quick; your more likely to hear them coming from the blaring AC-DC or rear muffler turbulence My point is that you can mash the throttle at any speed in one, and they just go. So on the street, in real life they are quicker then a light tune GTR. I don't mean the Jap standard of light tune either. I mean boost, filters, zhaust.

Rem too, a stock XR6 will belt out just a 'few' more 14sec 1/4 then a stock GTR will 12.5's

not even on their best day. Proved it

I thrashed a stock XR6 for months, and pumped quiet a few stock 'looking' R's. Like i said, while there still deciding what to do, what gear to chuck it into, how much boost to dial up onda Uleh EBC, the FalcoShite has already kicked down and laying 500nm (on the track of course)

Edited February 10, 2008 by GeeTR

[Bumblebee]

lol @ pumped a few R's... u sure they were R's?

and i DONT believe u have tracked ur xr6t because im a regular tracker and an xr6t doesnt even keep up with my shitty civic around a track. its not about power either, its the fact that theyre are barges.

The gtr dude might be thinkin about what gear he wants, but his still in front

Ive ran many xr6ts, stock or worked, its always been the same outcome. They lose. Even those silly "my xr6t makes 400rwkw" wankers lose and i was making a lazy 300awkw... as for ur 500nm... mine made over 800nm the dyno

And she feels it too hahah

Edited February 10, 2008 by Bumblebee

[OFENSV]

According to the manufacturer:

BAII/BF F6 Typhoon = 4.9-5.5 0-100km/h, 12.7-13.2 1/4 mile

BA/BAII/BF GT = 5.3-5.8 0-100km/h, 13.3-13.7 1/4 mile

BA/BAII/BF XR8 = 5.7-6.0 0-100km/h, 13.6-14.0 1/4 mile

BA/BAII XR6 Turbo = 5.8-6.2 0-100km/h, 13.8-14.1 1/4 mile

12.7 from a stock typhoon. i dont think so, more like mid to high 13's.

Dont get a 4spd auto or 5sp manualas they are shit and wont handle much of a power increase without causing you dramas , only the 6 speed man or auto are anygood. Always have problems with there rear ends, diff, drive shafts, diff bushes etc