R34 Gt-t Track Car- How Would You Build One?

[drifter 33]

hey guys

iv found a r34 shell for sale with a cams approved roll cage and im thinking of buying it and making it a serious track car

how would you build one?

any suggestions and pics would be awesome!

[VB-]

budget?

RB30DET

throw about 20 grand worth of suspension under it

BIGGGG brakes

slicks

[phenline]

there is a r33 gtst track car in england obviously not the same but very similar, only kind of really serious gtst/gtt model track i have seen, cannot remember its name for the life of me though. It was pulling close to 550 horse, running a motec with the dash, so you can imagine how much it would have cost. All depends on your budget if your minted then the skies the limit.

[evil_weevil]

If it were stripped already with CAMS approved cage, Id put it back together with only parts I needed so its on a nice diet, nice and light.

Also maybe looking at replacing some windows with lexan?

single seat

some nice power mods, Id say 250rwkw would keep me happy - so any turbo upgrade + supporting mods.

Brake upgrade with ducting (larger rotors, braided lines, pads, could even go brake bias if you were real serious)

suspension and driveline upgrades (clutch, diff, springs, shocks, caster, camber, sway bars etc)

then light wheels (with some nice gaps for air flow) and semi slicks

If you want a bit of an idea - check out Russ's (giant's) R34 build up - sure its a GTR but you can follow similar ideas

[R338OY]

Get ready for big bucks and a mission.

But if you plan it out it'll be an awesome project. Hmmm sounds like fun too

boosted Rb26 300rwkw with strong supporting mods--> lots of suspension, braking and drivetrain work. Top notch tyres.

And plenty left over too.

[lingeringsoul]

22" chromies

Neon Lights

doof doof

...................................................oh wait....wrong spec

suspension, brakes and tyres.....with it stripped out, you'd have a much better power to weight ratio even with the stock engine

[Roy]

Honestly? It would have to be very cheap.

The R34 GTT is basically as heavy as an R32 GTR, so if you are going to build a track car you are getting the weight of the GTR but the penalty of only beign a rwd platform.

Best bet is go rwd and get an R32/33 which will weigh in nice and light...or go with an R32 GTR and live with the weight only have the traction afforded by AWD

[nizmo_freek]

  phenline said:

there is a r33 gtst track car in england obviously not the same but very similar, only kind of really serious gtst/gtt model track i have seen, cannot remember its name for the life of me though. It was pulling close to 550 horse, running a motec with the dash, so you can imagine how much it would have cost. All depends on your budget if your minted then the skies the limit.

You mean the Apex Performance/K sport r33?

The one in this video

Search "k sport r33" on youtube for tons more vids, seems to go pretty well

[Laurence]

  Roy said:

...the penalty of only beign a rwd platform.

Penalty schmenalty... evil_weevil has the right idea.

Get a reliable car with enough power to make the chassis have a think and it is done.

[Roy]

An R34 GTT weight 1440kg std, whats an R32? 1280, and an S13? My point is the rwd Skyline and Silvia platform can be made to be a real quick car with some very basic mods and do not require huge power.

An R34 GTT is getting up in the scales and will in turn need more power, more tyre, more brakes etc etc you are looking at the GTR end of the spectrum of spend to get the same sort of lap speed

[Laurence]

Hehehe there you go chasing plastic trophies again... what you need to do is chase the plastic trophy inside your heart.

[R338OY]

  Laurence said:

Hehehe there you go chasing plastic trophies again... what you need to do is chase the plastic trophy inside your heart.

Chick, chick--> BOOM!

Lol. Ok you want it done cheap? No problem. Just go for basics, but do it quality.

230-250rwkw (plenty), supporting mods (duh), HD clutch + light flywheel, lowered on adjustable coilovers, 17x9 inch rims at the rear sitting on 255/40 rubber (even more= better), front 17x8/9 inch. Sway bars and strut braces. Oil cooler. Think about a GTR rear wing (do 34 ones swap to a gtt?). Also uprate the brake pads, fluid and get braided lines. Get as much weight off as possible, esp. on the front end (hard on a budget though).

Test that out and go from there adding whatever it needs. Now that i think of it, this isn't really that cheap...

Have fun! Oh, and picsorban when the project starts

Edited February 20, 2008 by R338OY

[Laurence]

Step 1 - Find out category you want to enter

Step 2 - Work out the class in that category that suits the car most

Step 3 - Build car to category rules

Step 4 - Buy tyres, petrol, parts

Step 5 - Enter events

Step 6 - Repeat Steps 4-6

You don't need a CAMS cage to screw around on track days (unless that has changed since I left Oz) so building the car for sprints or to some imaginary ideal spec is not a good idea. You may find that a car that runs such narrow wheels stock is not able to run 9" rears as R338OY suggested, categories have very strange rules that mean you often have to do weird things, so don't go out buying wheels or GT-R wings before you know you can use them.

Guys like Roy know a lot about these sort of rules so his advice is very useful.

Personally I would stick an RB25DET in it, stock brakes (which Sydneykid says are fine), big radiator, big oil cooler, some gauges, a seat and a GT-R front bar, BN Sports bonnet and a stock GT-R spoiler with some extension to raise it up a bit. Then the widest wheels I could fit under the arches with the narrowest recommended tyre size then lower it lots so the roll centres are wrong (just to annoy people).

Edited February 20, 2008 by Laurence