R35 Gtr At The Drag Strip In Perth "first Run Was A 11.6"

[skyline_man]

thats cool - how come then NIssan list "11.7s" as their time rather than lower..surely if Steve Jones hit that time, there must be professional nissan testers able to run quicker/similar times.

Nissan - like Porsche, tend to underrate their cars. Better to impress their customers than to dissapoint. It's not just car manufacturers that underrate their products. You'll find that the majority of 'Brand' name products in the electronic departments also underrate their products.

[Bumblebee]

and some turbo products too like 500hp GT3037 Pro S?? my ass.. or twin 2530's rated @ 600hp?? yer cops ass

[mad082]

one thing with something like the r35, they have made it so a useless driver can be almost as fast as a good driver. as the fella that drove it round the track in england said, it was just so effortless to drive. they are basially making the car drive itself, LOL

[700HP-GTR33]

You trying to say the McLaren f1 isnt on of the greatest cars of all time?

I would be close.....imagine...a stock R33GTR vs McClaren...not a contest

[Guest]

one thing with something like the r35, they have made it so a useless driver can be almost as fast as a good driver. as the fella that drove it round the track in england said, it was just so effortless to drive. they are basially making the car drive itself, LOL

People need to know Steve goes head to head with drivers like Jim Richards, Tony Longhurst and Ross Dunkerton in Targa's and the Dutton Rally all around Australia and on a good day beats them.

The people who make comments like above when they test drive cars well they should be going head to head with world class drivers not writing for some backwards magazine.

Targa 2007 Results

[sic200]

Nissan - like Porsche, tend to underrate their cars. Better to impress their customers than to dissapoint. It's not just car manufacturers that underrate their products. You'll find that the majority of 'Brand' name products in the electronic departments also underrate their products.

i can't see how a stock car can have much varience in drag times anyway? its got launch controll. all there doing is using that, plant the accelerator and hope for the best... its automatic, not as if your gona f**k the launch, or miss a gear.

[Starionturbo]

Launch control lets it launch at a certain low RPM.

It would be better off with stickier tyres and a higher RPM launch wouldnt it?

Evos and GTRs for years have been doing High RPM launches, most V8 drag cars are all auto as well, get on the stall converter and launch, or with big powered turbo cars with autos, get on the transbrake dial up big boost and launch.

I suppose there cheating as well? The GTR is not an auto. So many idiots out there think its your plain old automatic gearbox that you can get in a Nissan Maxima or a Tiptronic like in a commodore/falcon. They have no concept of what a DSG gearbox is or how it works. If you miss the shift with your hands your not gonna achieve a perfect time, so its not like sitting there doing nothing.

I dont bother arguing with people over the new GTRs "auto" anymore - I just say yep, there shit and I wouldnt be seen driving one. The more people dislike the car the better - that will mean there will be more for me to choose from

Edited February 24, 2008 by Starionturbo

[sic200]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

[mad082]

Launch control lets it launch at a certain low RPM.

It would be better off with stickier tyres and a higher RPM launch wouldnt it?

Evos and GTRs for years have been doing High RPM launches, most V8 drag cars are all auto as well, get on the stall converter and launch, or with big powered turbo cars with autos, get on the transbrake dial up big boost and launch.

I suppose there cheating as well? The GTR is not an auto. So many idiots out there think its your plain old automatic gearbox that you can get in a Nissan Maxima or a Tiptronic like in a commodore/falcon. They have no concept of what a DSG gearbox is or how it works. If you miss the shift with your hands your not gonna achieve a perfect time, so its not like sitting there doing nothing.

I dont bother arguing with people over the new GTRs "auto" anymore - I just say yep, there shit and I wouldnt be seen driving one. The more people dislike the car the better - that will mean there will be more for me to choose from

but it is still essentially an auto. you don't have to try and slip the clutch off the line in just the right way, you don't have to time your hand and feet at the same time so that you don't end up grinding the gears or missing the gear altogether, like if you hit the gate going from second to third). if you can manage to grind or miss a gear in a car with a dsg gearbox then you must be the worlds biggest moron. you can change at the wrong rpm (which you can do just as easilly with a manual), or not hit the shifter hard enough to get it to change, but the chances of someone actually doing that are pretty small.

just like at the 911 turbo. the tiptronic box in that yeilds a 0-100 time 0.2 seconds quicker than the manual. the computer does all the work for you. all you have to do is keep your right foot buried into the carpet and tap the shifter a few times. i bet that if you took a group of 20 ordinary people to the track with a gtr and had them run, all using the traction control, and just telling them to change at the same rpm, they would all run very similar times, but if you then let the same group of people drive a different car that ran the same sort of time but was manual and had no launch/traction control you would find that the times varied greatly.

[mad082]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

i actually think that the nissan box is good. the audi and vw ones aren't that good.

and the vx commodore never had tiptronic.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

I assume by this comment that you've driven the R35 GTR then ? Cause from the guys who've actually got one over here there full of praises for the R35's gearbox.

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

Its on!

[Marlin]

Yeh, what he said. ^^^^^

[typevu]

hahaha poor 180sx driver...

[sewid]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

haha this is funny. Because you've driven an R35 GT-R so you can comment?

In R-mode the GT-R will shift in 0.2 seconds every time. Get your facts straight before you comment, you're embarrassing yourself.

[R34]

I drive an Audi fitted with a DSG gearbox.

It is brilliant and I imagine the GTR one will be as good or better.

DSG is not an auto. It is a manual gearbox with auto control of the clutches whereas a Tiptronic like in Falcons etc are auto boxes with an add on manual type control function.

There is no way to crunch a DSG gearbox as when you're in first gear second is selected ready to swap clutches.

Changes happen so fast that the exhaust pops on the change up

DSG IMHO is the future as the DSG equiped car is faster in a straight line than the manual equiv.

And in kickdown mode there's no contest. My car will kick down from sixth to say second or third in an instant while a manual driver is still hunting a gear and matching revs.

[SimonR32]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I drive an Audi fitted with a DSG gearbox.

It is brilliant and I imagine the GTR one will be as good or better.

DSG is not an auto. It is a manual gearbox with auto control of the clutches whereas a Tiptronic like in Falcons etc are auto boxes with an add on manual type control function.

There is no way to crunch a DSG gearbox as when you're in first gear second is selected ready to swap clutches.

Changes happen so fast that the exhaust pops on the change up

DSG IMHO is the future as the DSG equiped car is faster in a straight line than the manual equiv.

And in kickdown mode there's no contest. My car will kick down from sixth to say second or third in an instant while a manual driver is still hunting a gear and matching revs.

Chris, Once your R35 arrives you'll be able to give us a factual comparison between the two gearboxes. Sometime in mid-2009

[Brockas]

i know what a dsg gearbox is... nissan's attempt at one sucks compared to audi/vw... atleast there dsg box changes quickly, unlike the nissan which might aswell be a tiptronic in a vx commodore. i don't think its cheating, i just can't see how they can improve on a time without doing anything to the car? how are you going to launch it at higher rpm? the computer will be set to its own thing. obviously nissan have set the launch rpm to what gets them the best time.. it already wheelspins at that anyway. your gonna have to be saying there shit for a long time yet, before you can trade in a starion on one.

[sic200]

haha this is funny. Because you've driven an R35 GT-R so you can comment?

In R-mode the GT-R will shift in 0.2 seconds every time. Get your facts straight before you comment, you're embarrassing yourself.

unfortunetly no, i haven't driven one, but i was in japan for the release. just hearing the car change gears sounds slow, perhaps it wasn't in r-mode? a vw golf gti with a dsg box changes in 8milliseconds according to a few sites, which seems a little too keen, i never said there shit, or that the car is shit, they could have done better. i imagine most of the aftermarket company's will be able to alter the program, and change the gear change timing, etc, as many other company's do for the euro's. yes i know its not a f**kin auto, but its more a auto then a manual. getting back on topic, 11.6 is bloody fast for a stock factory car.