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R35 Gtr At The Drag Strip In Perth "first Run Was A 11.6"

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most ppl are saying the gearbox is one of the best things about the car..apparently the GTR is the first car to finally nail a proper flappy paddle box. ive driven a few paddle boxes..i think they are all awesome..as long is there is no lag its all good..the F430 one and the gallardo ones are very good..but then again ur paying for it i guess.

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I think in the context of this thread, the pros and cons of a DSG style gearbox being compared to the pros and cons of a conventional manual gearbox is completely irrelevant?

The fact is, you can only get the new GTR with a DSG box, so why bother with the comparison? It has nothing to do with times that the GTR is capable of, period.

The only valid point for this thread relating to the gearbox is whether it means an average driver will be able to steer it to a good time, and whether there is much room for improvement in the current times.

My personal opinion is that it will make it easier (note, not neccessarily 'easy') to run a good time consistently, relative to a manual box. Thats pretty simply based on the fact that there are less physical movements to co-ordinate. Launch control also will obviously remove another usually neccessary skill which is selecting and holding an appropriate RPM level.

Planting foot, no slipping of clutch, and no co-ordinating clutch and gearstick on changes basically means there is a significant amount less for the driver to concentrate on getting right.

I also believe there will be less room for improvement than what you may find with other manual cars. Again this is relative, with less to co-ordinate there should be a better chance of the driver getting most things closer to perfect, which means less improvement is possible, which means close to optimal times will be set without as much difficulty.

Also, thats a very impressive time. Good work!!

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0.2sec for a DSG box???? That's mighty slow. U sure it's not 0.02 sec? cause at 0.2 sec. I think the ZF auto in some car shift faster.

Nothing worst than banging the paddles and waiting for the gear to arrive as you exit the crn and your mind is already on the next gear.

just a though

geeteeare Apprentice

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0.2sec for a DSG box???? That's mighty slow. U sure it's not 0.02 sec? cause at 0.2 sec. I think the ZF auto in some car shift faster.

Nothing worst than banging the paddles and waiting for the gear to arrive as you exit the crn and your mind is already on the next gear.

just a though

0.2 sec is correct and it's fast. Compare to Ferrari F430 Scuderia is 0.06 sec

dan_the_man Grand Master

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unfortunetly no, i haven't driven one, but i was in japan for the release. just hearing the car change gears sounds slow, perhaps it wasn't in r-mode? a vw golf gti with a dsg box changes in 8milliseconds according to a few sites, which seems a little too keen, i never said there shit, or that the car is shit, they could have done better. i imagine most of the aftermarket company's will be able to alter the program, and change the gear change timing, etc, as many other company's do for the euro's. yes i know its not a f**kin auto, but its more a auto then a manual. getting back on topic, 11.6 is bloody fast for a stock factory car.

So you are just guessing? well why didnt you say so :)

just stop talking :)

mad082 Grand Master

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a vw golf gti with a dsg box changes in 8milliseconds according to a few sites

so the gearbox in a $40,000 golf will shift in 0.008 of a second (that is 8 milliseconds), but the gearbox in a $100,000 gtr and ferrari's will only shift in 0.2+. seconds (200 milliseconds) wow. the golf must really be good. so good infact that it is 42 milliseconds quicker than a f1 car which takes 50 milliseconds (0.05 seconds).

you will actually find that they are about 0.3 to 0.4 of a second for the golf.

some other cars change speeds: enzo 0.15 seconds, audi 0.2 seconds and ferrari 575m 0.25 seconds and the acceleration of a tennis ball served by andy roddick from 0-150mph 0.35 seconds

and lexus is claiming that their new box will have a shift time of 0.1 seconds.

giant Mentor

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also the gtr transmission shift times are calculated from time power is released from the wheels to the time it's reapplied, where as most manufacturers calculate the time it takes to shift in the box!!

quite a difference.

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well giant and I have both seen the R35 being punted hard aroun fuji speedway and tsukuba circuit and the shifts sounded lightening fast to me. that was one thing that most people watching commented on, how quick it shifts.

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lol, i can tell you first hand it shifts a LOT quicker than 0.2 seconds. In R mode shifts are mighty quick. "Blink of an eye" quick.

Who cares anyway? If you had one would you complain? Bragging rights down at the pub over "My car shifts faster than your car" are pure wank anyways...

Stephen Thorpe Proficient

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Sorry everyone, but my understanding of time is as follows

.1 1 Tenth of a second

.01 1 Hundreth of a Second

.001 1 Thousandth of a Second

Or put another way.

.001 nana (one thousandth of something) or one nano second

.000,001 pico (one ten-thousandth of something)

.000,000,001 mlil (one millionth of something) or one millisecond

So,

.000,000,001 1 Millisecond

Is not very bloody much in other words.

A little confused about some of the times posted here...

JH32 Grand Master

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Sorry everyone, but my understanding of time is as follows

.1 1 Tenth of a second

.01 1 Hundreth of a Second

.001 1 Thousandth of a Second

Or put another way.

.001 nana (one thousandth of something) or one nano second

.000,001 pico (one ten-thousandth of something)

.000,000,001 mlil (one millionth of something) or one millisecond

So,

.000,000,001 1 Millisecond

Is not very bloody much in other words.

A little confused about some of the times posted here...

You are confused because your maths is wrong,

1 nanosecond is 1 billionth of a second, or 1 x 10^-9 (0.000000001)

1 microsecond is 1 millionth of a second, or 1 x 10^-6 (0.000001)

1 millisecond is 1 thousandth of a second, or 1 x 10^-3 (0.001)

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