Gtr Vs 911 Turbo Around A Track In Car Magazine

[rev210]

Guy I spoke to over here in Perth who is driving the GTR in targa west ,Steve, says it acutally 'feels' every bit as responsive as his smaller lighter evo that he used for last years event did but, actually better in terms of total control. It's like the tardis in reverse handling wise. Big luxo-barge weight / evo like response in handling. Tyre and brake killer I suspect though?

Alot of the reviewers seem to be amazed by the handling not only for it's weight but, just in general.

I mean a Mazda bongo van is very light but, when a strong breeze at 100km/h just about tips it over you wouldn't call that the be all criterior for a great handling car?

[N1GTR]

Top Gear and the Stig to see if how quick it is. Then Fifth Gear and Tiff as i agree 99 times out of 100 on what he says makes a good car. If he gets out of the heavy automatic beast and says its really fun to drive and doesnt drive like an EVO then i will maybe change my tune on the car. Not that it matters i will never own one There is a 89 Carrera 4 dressed up in 72 RS body and colours for sale at the moment. I am itching to buy it

Oh they are smoking hot! Got pics?

[skyline_man]

Im with you Roy, great vid and interesting result but i would prefer the Porsche sitting in my drive over the R35 anyday

If the badges were swapped, then i guess you and Roy will prefer the GTR?

[skyline_man]

+2 for top gear

That driver was shit

Actually, the driver, Ben Barry has driven the Porsche 997T before. He set the fastest time for the 997T on the Rockingham short circuit.

[scathing]

The GTR is just a Datsun whose styling loses out to a Hyundai Tiburon

If you look at it that way, the 911 is just a trumped up 60's Volkswagen Beetle "facelifted" by the world's laziest styling department.

I don't think either car is attractive. On looks alone I prefer the Audi R8, even though its significantly slower than either.

[scathing]

It is my understanding that the rear engined car is generally more tail happy than the yellow beast in the video. It begs the question, Did the powers that be set the car up in the knowledge that journos with varying skill levels would be driving it,

The 996 and 997 have had a lot of the taily nature dialled out of them.

Porsche purists who stopped bleating about the 996 not being air cooled started to bleat that the "safe understeery nature" of the car takes away from one of its defining handling characteristics.

[skyline_man]

I don't think either car is attractive. On looks alone I prefer the Audi R8, even though its significantly slower than either.

I think that 997 Porsches are one of the best looking cars out there. A very unique and distinctive style that grows on you the more you look at it. The 997 models actually look a lot better in real life than on film or picture. The same can be said about the GTR. When it first appeared, i thought it was ugly. But the more i see it, the better it looks.

The R8 on the other hand is the exact opposite. It started from looking good to looking quite ugly. Somehow, it doesn't look proportional. Even Jeremy Clarkson agrees with me.

And for most other supercars? Well they just look like Ferrari ripoffs.

[jase-r34]

And for most other supercars? Well they just look like Ferrari ripoffs.

+1

[Roy]

If you look at it that way, the 911 is just a trumped up 60's Volkswagen Beetle "facelifted" by the world's laziest styling department.

I don't think either car is attractive. On looks alone I prefer the Audi R8, even though its significantly slower than either.

Point is, to me the 997 is a great looking car. Even considering the car's history, the beetle never was/isnt...911s are good things to look at.

Agree re the R8...cant wait for the R10

[mad082]

Agree re the R8...cant wait for the R10

if they can ever get them to stop going up in flames, LOL

[Marlin]

There is a 89 Carrera 4 dressed up in 72 RS body and colours for sale at the moment. I am itching to buy it

Owned one briefly (edit oops: a 964 Carrera 4) Roy.... just a Great car mate

Do it!

Edited February 22, 2008 by Marlin

[N1GTR]

Actually, the driver, Ben Barry has driven the Porsche 997T before. He set the fastest time for the 997T on the Rockingham short circuit.

Who else has tried?

[Roy]

Owned one briefly (a 989 Carrera 4) Roy.... just a Great car mate

Do it!

It an 89 Model Carrera 4 dressed up old school. I just love this car

Shoot me, but i think this car appeals to me more then the R35

[Marlin]

Personal taste, but i think I still prefer the std look, with just a set of wider wheels

[alexk]

definately prefer a porsche.. much much more fun to drive. The same way I prefer the r32 gtr to a r34 gtr because i like the rawness of the r32

[Roy]

If the badges were swapped, then i guess you and Roy will prefer the GTR?

One of my favourite cars is the Vf/VG Valiant Coupe.

Do you think i care about badges and labels? I own a GTSt that is worth more then many GTRs. I also happen to love, i mean LOVE Mk 1 Escorts, BDA/LOTUS Escorts etc so dont think i care about badges. Nissan/Datsun build great cars...i just fear with the R35 they havent built a great drives car?!?!?!?>!?

[skyline_man]

i just fear with the R35 they havent built a great drives car?!?!?!?>!?/quote]

Possibly. Guess you'll have to wait for the V-spec to come out then. The 911 turbo aint 'raw'. It is quite refined. The 911 GT2 or GT3 RS is what i would define as 'RAW'

Also any Porsche before the 996/997 era are IMO, are tail happy pieces of crap. I would never buy one even if it's super cheap. Cos the parts are super expensive!!

[Roy]

It will be interesting to see how the guys racing the R35 go with parts and reliability. Fancy gearbox, clutches, electrics etc...in a few eyars it will be all the norm....but in the meantime hats off to the Aus folk who are talking on racing them. My biggest concern is clutches and gearbowes and diffs etc, temperature and failures in racing. Im sure Nissan have done their homework

[hungry6]

and yes they did plenty of homeworks on suspension and drive train, problem is they ran out of $$$ when it came to appearance.

[rev210]

.i just fear with the R35 they havent built a great drives car?!?!?!?>!?

There is therapy and medication for you irrational fears Roy

The people who have driven the R35 seem to have a hard time wiping the smile off thier faces, good sign we don't need to be afraid.

How cool would it be to drive something as heavy as an old dodge charger lapping the ring as fast as this thing?