Hsv Unveil New 7.0l Engine W427

[sewid]

I bet she rips a mean burnout.

[Duncan]

maybe, but can it chirp second?

[ras1983]

For everyone complaining about the fuel consumption on these 8's; do you guys think the new GTR will be much more efficient? I doubt it. If you want performance and big power you need lots of petrol.

[GTR-32U]

For everyone complaining about the fuel consumption on these 8's; do you guys think the new GTR will be much more efficient? I doubt it. If you want performance and big power you need lots of petrol.

Well under full throttle I would say you are correct...However under normal driving conditions...No I still think the GTR would have better economy and cleaner emissions...

[R33GOD]

how much bigger do hsv want to go just to make some power. weak as piss. lol

an even bigger donkey.

[adam-__-]

Car doesn't look too bad. All the HSV's look the same to me.

What's with the wheels though? Ugly shit.

[Roy]

I drive a work SS Crewman a bit. Arounf town it gets about 12-13L/100kms and on the highway gets 9.0-10.0L/100km depending on the load in the tray. When i have the trailer up back it is worful...but i guess you get that when you are pulling over 2 tonnes of car and trailer

These things arent all that bad on fuel considering the hp they make.

And those talking about how crap Holden are to be using such large displacement engines. Have you actually looked at the cars the Europeans are punching out these days. Twin turbo 6L V12 Mercs, 6L V10s. A 7L V8 is a big engine no doubt. But i dont see it as such a huge issue when you look at how the M3 has come from a little 4 banger to what displacement and what no of cylinders ? Consider that the GTR has put on 300kgs and found 1.2L of extra displacement and makes less power.

Also, comments regarding get with the times. GM do make quad cam V8s. They have even made quad cam 350 Chevs for the ZR1 Corvette, but the cost to do so and the jack all difference in performance, and packaging difficulties of the wider engines mean that they make do without. It also means these cars are cheaper to market and you scoff but so popular with the aftermarket as they are cheap to tune. Single cam, rocker ratios etc et. Quad cam sux if you want to change cams and lean on the engine further....which is a huge part to owning cars in Australia and America etc.

How many ppl do you see getting big numbers out of cam and ecu packages for BMW/ Audi etc. They are available but cost the firggin earth to still end up with weaker numbers.,

Anyway...its a long way from perfect...but come on guys be fair. Unles Hodlen impress GN to the extent that they build a car for global markets and is marketable under Cadillac etc brand names in Europe then they will never be given enough folding stuff to develop more complex and expensive engines allowing them to drop the displacement.

Also, reading Car and its review on the HSV sold under the Vauxhall tag, they said the larger displacement motors walk in under the emmissions requirements at the power levesl they achieve. Surely the loer R7D cost associated with keeping these things compliant to emssions at this sort of power is a big draw card.

Anyway, i think its way cool that Holden are doing these cars. I woudl change certain things, and they arent perfect...but they are fun cars. You only have to look at how much all the Eurp reviewers love thrashing them on Top Gear and Fifth Gear to realise they are balls of fun...but they are getting expensive. Still way cheaper then anything BMW or Audi that will match them for grunt.

[Roy]

and excuse my typos. I cant type and have been drinking

[Roy]

Oh, and i will add show me a car that Nissan Australia has EVER made that you could give a fark about. The SVD R31s? Helps put into perspective what Holden achieve for such a small market. Nissan is global with Renault support.

Holden has to make do with GM backing which isnt really global. Vauxhall, Holden GM, Chevrolet, Pontiac etc etc all dilutes their global ability to sell large volumes of one model.

Bring on the ZR1, i want to see Yankee Vette goodness spank the R35 Ring time. If i could afford a cool Vette i wouldn tbe in a Nissan, even if it was slower.

[Modena]

Theh igher the fuel prices go, the more litres Holden crams into their V8s...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

cant wait till stupid holden owners buy these hunk of wasted metal and get blasted by a R35 GT-R and cry

a car with a motor 1/2 the size beeating a POS pushrod stone age 7L V8 sad..... 7Ls of rubbish... so crap its just crap....

[aphid]

haha, some of the responses here are pretty funny

displacement isn't the be all and end all of an engine, the ls1 puts out more power than an rb26, yet it weighs less..

if you want to argue about emissions then you should probably get your facts straight first fuel + air = power, more power = emissions...

then again IMO if this is selling for 120,000 the GTR is the clear winner when it comes down to bang for your buck..

[Sheng]

yea i saw it today in the papers, it looks like a holden and feels like a holden

but only 640nm of torque... mmm

[typevu]

haha, some of the responses here are pretty funny

Hahaha I reckon! and some people were crying over my post in the other thread!

[Ronin 09]

this looks no different to any other HSV in the metal. front end looks crapper actually.

[dangerous_daveo]

You know, I REALLY dont think this is aimed at the GTR/911 turbo buying public. That and its got 4 doors and rwd, so its not even remotely on the same platform. So that argment is gone.

And $125k for a limited run of 200 cars, given the insane amounts people are paying for all the old stuff these days, its almost justifiable.

Also 200 cars, I REALLY dont think thats going to kill whats left of all the whales in the world. A 2CV would do more damage to the planet than all of those 200 cars together. You cant really expect them to be all daily drivers. Some probably wont see anymore than 100kms put on them in the next 10 years!

Fools.

[eddieneedsboost]

Should make a responsive 1000whp with twin TO4Z's lol

[rb30dett]

Man the comments on this just prove most of you guys are narrow minded. The ls1 is more economical than all late model skylines and 350zs etc... I have owned, built and still own rb25s 26s 30s ls1s my rb30dett motor used allmost twice as much fuel as my old ls1, it made more peak power than the ls1 but ran slower than the ls1. I bet in time say 20+ years most of us will be wishing we had one of these comonwhores parked in the shed. Oh and my rb26 stagea would also run quicker times and use less fuel if I had put an ls1 in it instead of the rb26 (but I just couldnt bring myself around to it) vh45 nissan v8 would be good aswell. I did consider that! Oh and I know of a couple of twin turbo ls1s that make scary power and incredable torque and get 10ltrs per 100ks on average mixed highway/town. Think one ran mid 10`s on pump fuel (unconfirmed).

Edited February 29, 2008 by rb30dett

[Duncan]

I've worked this car out now.

Holden entered a "sportswagon" in the Bathrust 12 hours a couple of weeks ago (had to get the rules changed to make it eligble). It was too slow and unreliable - died about halfway through.

Couple of years back holden "launched" a 7l monaro and said they would race it now and get around to building the required number of road cars later. THe cars won Bathrust 24hours both times but the road cars never got built.

Clearly this is holden's plan to win B12h next year.

[Haysey]

wheels look like shit

front isnt anything special

interior looks tacky

price tag blows ass

370kw isnt anything special, heard of forced induction holden?

125k is a joke

the term Supercar and Commodore dont go together AT ALL