Pfc Alternative?

[ashneel]

ok now we all know that the PFC is the way to go for ultimate tuning but PFC's are getting pretty hard to find these days for a R33 GTST so my question is whats the next best thing to use if one cant find a PFC???

do i just stick to a piggy back or is their another replacement ECU that can be compared to the PFC???

ta

Ash

[GeeTR]

Check the Emanage thread friend, look at proper ECU's with adaptor looms, Haltech, Autronic etc.

Edited March 10, 2008 by GeeTR

[Dale FZ1]

Don't discount Adaptronic as a viable ECU with real capabilities.

[PM-R33]

Microtech LT12S with plug and play room for the RB25 is a good buy at around $1500.

[Public Enemy]

Wolf V500

Best to find out what your local tuner prefers to tune thou

[Bliksem]

I doubt everyone is going to agree but I was under the impression Autronic was the next best option...

[BAMR33]

Depends what your aims are... for your everyday streeter with a hi-flow turbo, slightly bigger injectors etc. an E-Manage Ultimate would be more than enough. If your going to make big power it would be better to spend the extra money and get something that's suited for tuning big turbo's i.e Autronic.

[NYTSKY]

If i was to buy an ECU all over again it would be the Haltech E11V2.

[giant]

as above , best to find out what your tuner prefers

[r33cruiser]

PLEASE DONT GO A EMU DUDE THEY SUCK BALLZ.

no one tunes them. it is VERY hard to tune, i was quoted that they needed 3 days to do the tune!!!!!. it bollocksed up my ecu. made error codes. then removed it and ran just stock ecu and it runs.

so im going a power fc.

good thing im getting my money back on the EMU. whoo lesson learnt. just because its new doesnt mean its good.

BUT. have heard nothing but good news on the e11v2. i believe the ignition jet200 uses one.

Edited March 10, 2008 by r33cruiser

[Scooby]

check out Nistune, just like a pfc but programmable, requires new board les than half the price of a pfc all up and allows you to monitor a buch of parameters with a laptop. oops my bad they don't go R33 GTSt sorry.

Edited March 10, 2008 by Scooby

[discopotato03]

I would hold out for a PFC , they are around if you are prepared to look .

Interceptors are very limiting and most aftermarket systems make you use a MAP sensor which is a backwards step IMO .

Your call , cheers A .

[eddieeeee-ro]

so you bought another 33?

haha..

[_Ryan_]

PM URAS for EMU tuning in VIC

AUTRONIC is the way to go! interpolation is alot better than the cheaper ECU's etc.

access in trade place vermont prob have PFC's still

[paulr33]

go the powerfc, sorry wins hands down in most cases unless you can afford wolf 3d, autronic, motec

it just seems with the other piggyback style systems you need to find a competent tuner

then you are back to the old remap style issue where only 1 or 2 workshops can do / fix it / tune it

so your stuck with lack of competition, options and alternate/cheaper pricing

if i was to do another car , powerfc no questions

[Kaido_RR]

powerfc is old and overpriced.

E-manage Ultimate is the best replacement for the pfc.

people seem to think it just another safc but it is far from that and is alot better than the pfc in my books. able to have more than one map sorted in the ecu and change maps on the fly by a flick of a switch, launch control, ignition cut limiter just to name some of its features.

seem one in action and if the tuner knows what he/she is doing they are a great ecu. their are cars in Japan running over 500hp with the ultimate (Trust/Greddy D1 s15 for example)

[abu]

Apexi PFC - stand alone/plug & play

Wolf 3d - stand alone/plug & play

Greddy E-Manage Ultimate/blue - Piggy back

powerfc is old and overpriced.

Old & over priced?

I'd say one of the best value for money ECU's on the market - it does everything a stand alone ECU should do without any fancy unnecessary useless features

Its been around for years and will be for many more to come

[Kaido_RR]

Apexi PFC - stand alone/plug & play

Wolf 3d - stand alone/plug & play

Greddy E-Manage Ultimate/blue - Piggy back

Old & over priced?

I'd say one of the best value for money ECU's on the market - it does everything a stand alone ECU should do without any fancy unnecessary useless features

Its been around for years and will be for many more to come

when was the last time apexi update the powerfc? And last time a check Apexi are no longer producing alot of its PFC models

best value for money? no thank you $1500 for a basic ecu (r33/r34 prices) - when you can get the ultimate which does exactly the same as what the pfc does for alot less ($1000 or under) oh and it has more function than the pfc too

so what is the greddy is a piggy back? why does that make such a bad ecu?

Edited March 10, 2008 by [Michael]

[N1GTR]

Autronic

Haltech

Microguess lts12

[abu]

when was the last time apexi update the powerfc? And last time a check Apexi are no longer producing alot of its PFC models

best value for money? no thank you $1500 for a basic ecu (r33/r34 prices)

so what is the greddy is a piggy back? why does that make such a bad ecu?

Never said it was bad, I'd prefer to go a plug and play over something that cuts into your loom

Also for EPA/defect reasons

+ installation for the E-MANAGE - its just easier to go a plug and play and might even work out cheaper

Unless you want to pay for the wiring harness etc - by the time you get all that, you might as well spend a little more and go a stand alone ECU

$1,500 is an overstatement, if you look hard enough you will find one for cheaper than that

I know someone who bought one off this forum for $1,000 brand new with HC - that wasn't to long ago either

I also bought a AP Engineering one for $1300 delivered - people are asking anything up to $1600, it just depends on how hard you look

Basic ECU if you think so but it does everything you need it to do for a tuned street/track car

If you were going all out with a spastic track car - 1000hp style then I'd say AUTRONIC or MOTEC but whats the max he will go with an RB25, 300wkw maybe?

PFC is more than capable of handling that

Updated? What for - it does what its designed to do and always has