Hsv Owners Being Converted

[m3gtr]

The size that it is, it can never expect to compete with cars like the GT-R in terms of performance.

Hmm. Nick, you do know the GTR weighs a lot right? On par with the holden, correct? The GTR does what the Holden cant and no wonder with the technology it has beneath the chassis. This is the fundamental reason the two cars will never be ably matched, head to head. The Holden is all brute force and no finesse. The Skyline is uncompromising and knife edged. Both are packing similar numbers. Its 6 of one half a dozen of the other as they say.

I got a laugh out of the LS1 owners forum where people were tossing up on which car to buy based on a few kilowatts and newton metres, lol.

Thats besides the point. Its not because of the weight, per say... its mostly to do with the engineering.

Having driven the GTR a number of times ( im going for another fang this weekend ) i can say its not comfortably livable day to day. It really doesnt leave room for compromise. You take it in all its rawness or you leave it.

The thing that Nissan didnt manage to do was a good enough job finding the line between edge of your pants terror and stuck in city traffic boredom.

In all honesty, and in that light i would argue that the Holden has struck the better chord.

I agree with you on the comfort factor. Its only pleasant for the people sitting in the front seats of the GTR. NOT pleasant for those in the back...not that ive had to sit in the back.

Youre a lucky guy for having enough money to have them both.

Id still take the GTR any day though! :)

Edited March 11, 2008 by m3gtr

[BIGS]

Its funny you know the whole brand name thing, I was talking to my friends Grandfather the other week and he was telling me if I'd considered getting a Porsche instead of say a GTR. I wouldn't for the simple reason I hate the poser element of owning one, it just seems like snobbery and thats not why I buy the cars I do.

[Nick_S]

Hmm. Nick, you do know the GTR weighs a lot right? On par with the holden, correct? The GTR does what the Holden cant and no wonder with the technology it has beneath the chassis. This is the fundamental reason the two cars will never be ably matched, head to head. The Holden is all brute force and no finesse. The Skyline is uncompromising and knife edged. Both are packing similar numbers. Its 6 of one half a dozen of the other as they say.

I know the weight is similar ... the biggest wow factor with the GT-R has been that it can do what it does despite the weight. I suppose it would be theoretically possible for an HSV to achieve similar things but this is a car that started life as an Omega ... it's never going to lap any circuit at the sort of pace that a GT-R can.

I just don't think the 427 is going to do anything (in day to day type driving) that our GTS with exhaust / OTR / suspension / tune (260rwkw) can't do, and our GTS has cost about $80K all up. It won't be able to do what a GT-R can do when driven in anger and it won't really achieve much more than a regular GTS every other day ... just seems to have negatives no matter which way you look at it.