Nytsky's Engine Build

[NYTSKY]

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That water feed looks way to far out Might still work... be interesting to see the final result once its in. My guess is it will be tight if it does fit...

Is that an xforce manifold?? I have heard that they crack fairly easily from people that have run them.... might pay to HPC it now while its still out of the car .... Wrapping wont help unfortunately... I have seen one die after 2 months. He HPC'd (black same as mine) the next one (ebay jobby) and it lasted over 2 years on a 400+rwkw GTR

otherwise... looking good... how long till its going in??

Anna its a GCG manifold and at $1100 a pop it better not crack

I need to get a few more little bits and pieces(money permitting) should be in very soon.

[rb26s13]

Anna its a GCG manifold and at $1100 a pop it better not crack

I need to get a few more little bits and pieces(money permitting) should be in very soon.

what you need to do to make sure it doesnt crack or any manifold for the matter is make sure the exhaust system is properlly supported around the back of the gearbox this is one of the main causes of manifolds cracking.. exhausts only having mounts at the back.. rest of the system hanging off the turbo and manifold im quite suprised tho.. 1100 for the manifold and you chose the stainless one over a 6boost mani?

[Lazy-Bastard]

im quite suprised tho.. 1100 for the manifold and you chose the stainless one over a 6boost mani?

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$1100 or not, I give it 6 months before it needs to be machined

[blitzxtr]

Hey Dave its Dave lol. Paul was saying ya looking for some stripes for ya car same as on my GTR if ya keen what colours ya lookin at.

Cheers Dave

Soz I missed ya when ya picked the engine up had the arse bandit from hell.

[FineLine]

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$1100 or not, I give it 6 months before it needs to be machined

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[T04GTR]

thats ok, i got an ebay one that looks very similar for 250. its lasted 2 years so far.

[NYTSKY]

Hey Dave its Dave lol. Paul was saying ya looking for some stripes for ya car same as on my GTR if ya keen what colours ya lookin at.

Cheers Dave

Soz I missed ya when ya picked the engine up had the arse bandit from hell.

Something along the lines of the Nismo colours. And the the style of the SIGNAL R43 GTR.

[NYTSKY]

As far as the manifold, we will see what happens. I bought the manifold in a kit off a forum member. I have not heard any bad reports about these items as yet. Its all well and good to bag out a product if you have had one fail on you personally. How many of you can say you have had one of these manifolds fail on you??

6boost items are a good manifold and have a good reputation,but because the GCG ones are not as known doesnt mean they are any better or worse than the other.

Stainless are known to crack more than other types of material,but i personally know of many cars that have branded stainless manifolds and have not had a problem.

Time will tell as to how all products perform.

On another note i have sprayed the CAS in silver engine enamel which looks alot better than stock. Also plumbed up all the heater lines. Maybe....just maybe it will be in the car this weekend

[Beer Baron]

do GCG make their manifolds or just import and sell them? they look amazingly similar to others I have seen. anyway I have to agree $1100 is a little harsh if it is the same spec as some others getting around. the 6boost ones though look awesome, and I think from memory are under the $1000 mark for RB25.

anyway, you will find out soon enough what it's like and I'm guessing the one good thing about a mammoth price tag is it most likely comes with a good, replacement warranty.

[murrayis]

Take alook at TuneAgent manifold, there the same as the GCG ones.

[NYTSKY]

In no way are they the same as the TuneAgent manifolds.

[murrayis]

In no way are they the same as the TuneAgent manifolds.

They look near identical from the pictures..

GCG

TuneAgent

They look fairly similar, but probly a copy of the GCG one.

Edited June 2, 2008 by murrayis

[msnismo]

Anna its a GCG manifold and at $1100 a pop it better not crack

I need to get a few more little bits and pieces(money permitting) should be in very soon.

ah okies.... from that angle it looked identical to an exforce one....

Still HPC it imo.... being stainless it still wont like the exhaust wrap.....

do GCG make their manifolds or just import and sell them? they look amazingly similar to others I have seen. anyway I have to agree $1100 is a little harsh if it is the same spec as some others getting around. the 6boost ones though look awesome, and I think from memory are under the $1000 mark for RB25.

anyway, you will find out soon enough what it's like and I'm guessing the one good thing about a mammoth price tag is it most likely comes with a good, replacement warranty.

Yup... round the $1000 dollar mark these days... they weren't 12 months ago when I got mine though *grumbles*

Although good point... should have a comparible warranty...

Anyhoooo hurry up and get it in the car already

[cactus]

Yer i would get it coated ...

also, its a bit odd that they would still place the wastegate pipe underneath the collectors and not right near the top ... especially for something you pay top dollar for. not the best boost control with it down there.

[400GTST]

might pay to HPC it now while its still out of the car .... Wrapping wont help unfortunately

Yeah, unfortunatly hp coating only helps crack cheap manifolds, it traps the heat in them forcing the bad quality tig welds to fail.

its a bit odd that they would still place the wastegate pipe underneath the collectors and not right near the top

Look at all the 9/10 sec r33s or vls, that is where all the wastegates are positioned, for space, heat probs and efficiency with exhaust gas and for easy integration with the dump pipe.

being stainless it still wont like the exhaust wrap.....

What does stainless have to do with exhaust wrap. Had it on my stainless manifold and dump pipe for 3 years. Still works exellent.

Nytsky: Love the build looks great, cant wait to see the car in real life.

Edited June 6, 2008 by 400GTST

[Rezlo]

They look near identical from the pictures..

GCG

TuneAgent

They look fairly similar, but probly a copy of the GCG one.

Those are prone to over boosting with anything bigger than a GT3076R

[Swiper the Fox]

wow...if you want the truth you go to the top.

this is a response to the claim SCAT rods are made in China from SCAT CEO Tom Lieb...

Paul,

Thanks for your enquiry, I hope the following information answers a few questions.

1^st There are 8 different rod factories in China

2^nd There are no rod factories in Taiwan. There are "Trading Companies" in Taiwan that sell rods that are made in China, but no factories.

3^rd SCAT designed the 3/8" bolts in conjunction with ARP. We have them made with and without the SCAT logo. We use the bolts with the SCAT name in

all rods by SCAT and sold under the SCAT brand label.

When we sell to Brian Crower and other per their request, we finish those rods with same bolts but without the SCAT I.D. on the bolt. We also sell bolts separately both ways.

4^th Rocket and others in Australia are big buyers of rods, but very few bolts.

5^th If you go to the SCAT website; www.scatenterprises.com, on page 6 and 15 of your 2008 catalog you will see pictures of the SCAT Rod Dept. at our USA location in Redondo Beach, California. It also describes what procedures are preformed at SCAT.

6^th It is no secret that SCAT buys rod forgings in China. The quality of forgings from China is as good as you are going to get any place in the world. What is not so good is getting finished product like all our competitors do. This is why SCAT does what we do in Redondo Beach, CA. If you are in the Los Angeles area we would be very happy take you on a tour of our state of the art crank and rod facility.

7^th Question: If Spool is buying rods from Taiwan aka China without bolts, how are the rods machined without the proper bolts, torque property, etc. The proper bolts can only be used a few times before they are stretched beyond use. Does Spool have a modern CNC machining facility like Scats' to insure quality every time? Just a question.

SCAT makes 56 different "Sport Compact Rods", Forged Stroker Crank for the 'B' Series Honda and Air Cooled VW. SCAT also makes Billet Cranks for all engines up to 40" in length and 10" in diameter. How can we help you.

Regards,

Tom Lieb

CEO

Edited June 7, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[Spoolup]

Interesting..

I met my supplier at a trade show in Taiwan and deal with him there. Im now presuming they are made in China :-) and sold out of Taiwan. Which is ok with me as per the info above and the quality of my conrods.

Paul - as you are aware all my rods were perfectly sized and of the several hundred sets I have sold, I have never once had an issue with sizing. So how ever they are machined ( which I will find out and let you know ) it is working fine. My supplier does not supply with bolts and will not even if I ask. They are machined at the specified torque as I have asked that question before. They say they can not supply bolts as good as ARP so leave it to me to source them here.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers

Edited June 7, 2008 by Spoolup

[NYTSKY]

OK all,

Manifold has been wrapped. All the braided lines that are in close proximity to the manifold have been wrapped in that silver adhesive heatproof wrap.

All the heater hoses are connected. All the sensors have been put into the right spots. The brackets and new engine mounts are on.

The fuel rail has been modified to suit the new plenum. I have to go to Bunnings and get one new bolt for the plenum and new bolts for the fuel rail.

I also need to get new O-rings for the injectors.

I spend over $300 today on oils,coolant,filters and plugs

I think ill leave all the wiring till the motor is in the car.Which will be tomorrow hopefully

[Lazy-Bastard]

Pic of hard water and oil lines as promised. Excuse the phone cam quality

Cost $170 to have made at the local hydraulic shop including all new banjo bolts. The oil drain was fabricated at the workshop.