gtr jason Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 sounds like you forgot the rings when you where building and tuning the car in your drive way ha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrd-hr30 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Marks laps in the video looked very clean indeed!... I would say that comparing the S2000 v the GTR lap, the GTR was the one that had less drama about it... throttle application was smooth, and tended to be only 1 go at it...what was the lap time difference between the 32 v 35 and say the S2000??? JB's driving style certainly is exciting to watch!!! butI'm not so sure on it bringing the fastest lap time. there's a common misconception going around that to be fast you have to be smooth. This really only applies to cars with lots of aerodymanic grip. If you are running around perfectly smooth in a prod car even on semi slicks, you are loosing a bit of time. You only need to look back to any production based racing (Group A, Group C, or current Improved Production etc) and you will always see that the fast guys are running right on the edge like Boz in the S2000. Particularly when you are going for the fastest possible single lap from the car - like in qualy or in this case at Superlap. Its only when it gets 'too' sideways that its slower than being smooth. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 so who owns this gtr? and was this the one with dry sump? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunky_monkey Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Not sure if that GT-R has one too, but this 32 ran a dry sump Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 no idea on the silver one, but the grey one is matt's. top bloke and he did very well considering it was only his second time at oran park too. it runs all the good gear. dry sump, PPG dog box etc etc. very nice car. with the scavange from the head it doesn't breathe at all. i mean nothing. it doesn't have any pipes fitted to the cam covers and not a drop to be seen anywhere in the engine bay. for quick GTRs dry sump is the way to go it seems. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 actually, now I remember. the silver one was dry sump too. and it had a weird screen made of particle board, and all these ducts and fans and vents in the boot. some of it looked a bit nautical! should slap that into johns car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) hmm I'm no mechanic but do healthy engines breathe 1l/lap? Is it due for new rings soon or does it just have big clearances? Didn't you read the post you deleted? This is a brand new mega-buck engine built by another workshop located in Sydney. I wanted to build it but Dave believed he could get a good product as the workshop in question had employed a good engine builder. The car had a built engine of unknown origin in it when it cried 'enough' on their dyno. Dave decided it best to leave it in Sydney and let them take care of it. Clearances are unknown but since the thing was running so rich on run-in it may have had a ring sealing-bedding in issue from the get go. It has always blown oil smoke since the day he picked it up which is something that has always concerned me. Dave now realises his decision to leave the car in Sydney was a mistake that has cost him a lot of time and money. He now wants me to pull it down and inspect it. Not throwing mud here...just stating facts. If this post breaks forum rules please delete. gtrjason what style of breather system do you run, any help is always welcome. Edited July 11, 2008 by DiRTgarage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 You GTR guys make me laugh. Dry Sumps, breather systems nail ppolish removers. Sheesh, i read everywhere they are king of the track. Just man up, throw bigger turbo on it, more boost and use a Gatorade bottle (i am a proud Aussie so i use Powerade) as a catch can. If the thing breathes then throw the 26 to the shitter and put a 20 in it. Nissan build a perfectly good, strong reliable track engine in the 20 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 LOL.... the Minister is alive and well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzxtr Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hey guys Paul isnt stirring crap he has just stated the the facts as to what happened over ther superlap weekend. My car did have a lot of blowby after 2 laps we didnt even get a good lap in really as tyres wearnt even warm but we still managed a 1.18 considering the dramas we had with the catch can filling up so quick. The engine was built by a very respected engine builder he is very carefull with the way he builds his engines checks everything twice plus is clean with the way he does things. Paul has been a great help to me in the past as well as the present he has just been looking out for me & the GTR as he does no hes shit Its his second nature the GTR. One other thing the car never has blowby on the street or on the dyno so god only knows. So me paul wouldnt mind stripping it down to see if everything is ok. Last tuesday would of had at least a 1ltr of oil in the intercooler & some in plenum chamber its all clean now thou & guess what no blowby all week. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dave, would you like some of these ,.,.,,.. Seem to be short of a few...lol Lets get back to Superlap shall we... Now, when's the next one? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 hehehe, the Poms wont knwo what hit them. http://www.timeattack.co.uk/latest%20news.html Buy AUS$6000 shitter R32, gut it whilst downing some Carlings, throw on some semis then wreak havoc. FARK YEH!!!! Any chance of any Australian businesses wanting to sponsor me in the UK series Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rismo Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 You GTR guys make me laugh. Dry Sumps, breather systems nail ppolish removers. Sheesh, i read everywhere they are king of the track. Just man up, throw bigger turbo on it, more boost and use a Gatorade bottle (i am a proud Aussie so i use Powerade) as a catch can. If the thing breathes then throw the 26 to the shitter and put a 20 in it. Nissan build a perfectly good, strong reliable track engine in the 20 How is Powerade more Aussie than Gatorade? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 How is Powerade more Aussie than Gatorade? they are both Seppo i think Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4006970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted Zed Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dirtgarage you should seruiously be offering your services to a Formula 1 team. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 actually, now I remember. the silver one was dry sump too. and it had a weird screen made of particle board, and all these ducts and fans and vents in the boot. some of it looked a bit nautical! should slap that into johns car. yee thats the one, had some air duct tube in the boot and sectioned off with partical board. haha why i am waiting waiting and waiting some more i keep getting ideas... and i cant buy engine parts because i got no idea what size the bore is!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hey guys Paul isnt stirring crap he has just stated the the facts as to what happened over ther superlap weekend. My car did have a lot of blowby after 2 laps we didnt even get a good lap in really as tyres wearnt even warm but we still managed a 1.18 considering the dramas we had with the catch can filling up so quick. The engine was built by a very respected engine builder he is very carefull with the way he builds his engines checks everything twice plus is clean with the way he does things. Paul has been a great help to me in the past as well as the present he has just been looking out for me & the GTR as he does no hes shit Its his second nature the GTR. One other thing the car never has blowby on the street or on the dyno so god only knows. So me paul wouldnt mind stripping it down to see if everything is ok. Last tuesday would of had at least a 1ltr of oil in the intercooler & some in plenum chamber its all clean now thou & guess what no blowby all week. yeah that's fair enough. plenty of GTR will experience some blow by under track conditions as it's a long way from street use/drag use/dyno. it probably just needs some smart catch can work and maybe an external oil return if it doesn't have one. 1:18 is fairly moving so it's doing pretty well for a road car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dirtgarage you should seruiously be offering your services to a Formula 1 team. "You cannot be seruious!" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezerkR32 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) Paul,as you didnt build it i know its a hard question to answer but could it be something stupid like the restricters werent fitted and its pumping the valve covers up? its the only thing i can think of other than an internal problem causing massive crankcase pressure which can only be a ring issue. incorrect ring gap or broken ring....but at the end of the day, shouldnt this highly experienced engine builder be looking at rectifying the issue? "You cannot be seruious!" Edited July 11, 2008 by BezerkR32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 How is Powerade more Aussie than Gatorade? LOl, because Coca COla do a wonderful job of pasting Australian Institute of Sport crap all over the bottles so most people think drinking it is supporting our athletes etc Yeh, its not ! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/85/#findComment-4007530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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