Superlap Timeattack Is Ago!

[Sydneykid]

Guys you have to realise that some of the rules are still not finalised as we are waiting to hear back from cams. We have put the cage ruling in Open Class INCASE that cams come back and say that you WILL need one. If they say you wont need one then the rule will be gone. But we would rather tell people they need them and then they not need them rather than say you dont need one then turn around when cams get back to us and say oh wait you do need a cage sorry. Untill cams get back to us ( we have been waiting since before the website went live which we got rushed into ) then the safety rules are still open so dont get to worked up over it. And if it does come down to the fact that you do need a cage it will be a cams call not ours.

I assume you are running this event under a Speed Event Permit, since the results are determined by timing not finishing order (that's a race). Most likely Supersprint regualtions since you will have multiple cars on the circuit at the same time. If that is the case then ROP's have never been a requirement ("non manadatory" in CAMS speak).

Our applied definition at a Speed Event is that if the car has been "lightened significantly" we insist on ROP. Lightweight bonnets and boots are OK, but once you get into things like doors and total interior stripping, then some form of ROP is the go. Since it is not a CAMS requirement, but something we add at our level, then we determin if the ROP is suitable. Hence "Japanese" brand name roll cages are acceptable, although we prefer the CAMS approved and maker certified ROP's.

Keeping the above in mind, I doubt that you will get a response from CAMS, it's all in the Manual (reference Roll Over Protection in Speed Events).

Cheers

Gary

[Roy]

I assume you are running this event under a Speed Event Permit, since the results are determined by timing not finishing order (that's a race). Most likely Supersprint regualtions since you will have multiple cars on the circuit at the same time. If that is the case then ROP's have never been a requirement ("non manadatory" in CAMS speak).

Our applied definition at a Speed Event is that if the car has been "lightened significantly" we insist on ROP. Lightweight bonnets and boots are OK, but once you get into things like doors and total interior stripping, then some form of ROP is the go. Since it is not a CAMS requirement, but something we add at our level, then we determin if the ROP is suitable. Hence "Japanese" brand name roll cages are acceptable, although we prefer the CAMS approved and maker certified ROP's.

Keeping the above in mind, I doubt that you will get a response from CAMS, it's all in the Manual (reference Roll Over Protection in Speed Events).

Cheers

Gary

That is my understanding. The regs dont stipulate whether the sessions must be constrained by laps or a max duration so you would be able to get a Speed Event Permit, Supersprint or Other Event which most Sprint rounds are run under. Just that the winner is th elowerst time, not who crosses the finish line first.

So in that case change the wording to "recommended" and you basically have two wide ranging classes that can accomodate almost anyone.

If you ask around several forums, car clubs then you will be able to find people to help with such an event, from scrutineers, officials etc who will be able to perhaps better assist with the event. CAMS, good and bad may not be the best people to help you framing your regs. Grab a handbook and have all the asnwers ready in case they start questioning your application for a permit.

I imagine the OHS aspects of this will be a ball ache, especially since you will having paying public there. But again, if you ask around Car Clubs etc you will be able to find ppl willing to help with that. I gave up the scrutineering gig as i didnt enjoy the experience, but some enjoy it

Actually, sice its Oran Park why not go AASA?

[Boosted Zed]

To get an idea and put in perspective re times, see below some times of some times of Oran GP of SPorts sedans and others. The Sports Sedans times vary a lot, the quickest ones 1 min 12, and very some very serious cars, tube frame, big wheels with slicks, fibrerglass bodies and massive aero and engines sitting next to them with big power and very light.

I would assume conditions were not wet with these times.

Sports Sedans

Production Sports Cars which are fairly modified and run slicks I believe.

Prod Sports

Porche Day and see down bottom Bruce Hibbard 700hp GT2 with perspex windows and sequential gear box, Motec etc etc and slicks?

Porsche TImes

[Superlap Australia]

I was speaking with one of the guys entering Open Class in a GTR who claims he does a 1:12 on the GP Circuit on rubbish semi's. I think times will be interesting on the day we may see some extremely fast times.

Edited April 4, 2008 by Superlap Australia

[evil_weevil]

Nanthan,

Question - with the "pit crew" do they still have to pay the $15 spectator fee?

[Bozman1]

This thread is very funny at times.

Yes Jason reckons he does 12's on retreads because he was following a car that said they were doing 12's. Did Jason have any timing devices....um no

So yes it will be interesting once we have some official timing on the track

I think Lofty will go close to doing a 12 as the car is going on a severe diet and a huge horsepower increase for this event

Edited April 2, 2008 by Bozman1

[Swiper the Fox]

This thread is very funny at times.

Yes Jason reckons he does 12's on retreads because he was following a car that said they were doing 12's. Did Jason have any timing devices....um no

So yes it will be interesting once we have some official timing on the track

I think Lofty will go close to doing a 12 as the car is going on a severe diet and a huge horsepower increase for this event

Our guy runs 1:10's...albeit in a Supertourer. I do 4:10's on my Avanti road cycle...does it matter?

Who gives a sh1t about classes, regulations, handicaps etc...lets just go, race and have a great time.(and most importantly a drink and bullsh1t session afterwards)

and i thought drag race threads were full of crap!

[Bozman1]

What DiRTgarage said

[Superlap Australia]

This thread is very funny at times.

Yes Jason reckons he does 12's on retreads because he was following a car that said they were doing 12's. Did Jason have any timing devices....um no

So yes it will be interesting once we have some official timing on the track

I think Lofty will go close to doing a 12 as the car is going on a severe diet and a huge horsepower increase for this event

The exact reason why I said "claims"

Chris - No they will not have to pay for entry.

[Bozman1]

Yes i noted that you said that Nath

Jason is a funny bugger. I have known him for years. He told me a while ago the same story

[JAGR33]

What happens if it rains?????

Does it still go ahead???

[giant]

Our guy runs 1:10's...albeit in a Supertourer. I do 4:10's on my Avanti road cycle...does it matter?

Who gives a sh1t about classes, regulations, handicaps etc...lets just go, race and have a great time.(and most importantly a drink and bullsh1t session afterwards)

and i thought drag race threads were full of crap!

agreed!!

i cant wait to get there , there should be some really top drivers & cars mixing it up which will be great to see.

and the drinking should be good

[giant]

if it rains the brave will win!! hehe lol or die trying

[Sydneykid]

What happens if it rains?????

Does it still go ahead???

Of course it will still go ahead, it's not drag racing you know

I'll just change the entry to the Stagea, it's good in the wet

Cheers

Gary

[Swiper the Fox]

Of course it will still go ahead, it's not drag racing you know

Cheers

Gary

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[Roy]

If it rains then i ring members of my family, tell them i love them and give the camera crew footage worthy of white goods on Funniest Home Video

[giant]

haha ^^ classic

[Angus Smart]

I've seen a few nice cars at a shop i know for this event.

i think i know whos going to win the N/a open class or get close to it anyway!

cant wait to be watching this event!

Edited April 3, 2008 by Angus Smart

[Amec]

AWESOME! we are so in for these! I just dont know if we will be able to get to Oran Park though, may have to wait until the event comes to QLD.

[Boosted Zed]

Times, I don't beer talk I have an in car timer, no hand timing or car in front telling me and car behind tells me, and I looked faster so.... blab la bla. As I said when the rubber meets it then it all stops.

By the way I have not told anyone this yet but I have snuck out recently to Oran Park GP and have done lots of practice and set up changes, and on old tyres and windy day I did a 1 min 14.4.

To prove this I had semi independent witnesses, my wife and kids were there and can vouch for me, even the mother in law and a mate, I might add it was in a V8 Supercar on Play Station.

Hey if it rains even though zeds like lots of water I think Nathan Superlap should double the handicap for no front diff.

Re catagories and rules etc who cares. Hey what, isn't that what racing is all about otherwise no goal posts it is just another trackday. Sounds like a cop out. What trophies for the car that looks the fastest and looks the go, or the most Unique Zed??? Yes will have a big time anyway and I say Beer Baron should do some research on a watering hole and run the social event afterwards?? Or has Superlap have something in mind, I don’t want to upset things.

Edited April 3, 2008 by Boosted Zed