Legality of boost controllers??

[Humbla]

Have a Turbodumb bleed valve set at 10lbs and works real good.

I love it.

OK, now it is time for insurance.

Some companies say that any LEGAL mods are fine.

Rang RTA to find out about it.

Top engineer (NSW) says "Any adjustable boost controller is illegal because it changes emissions."

So... Has anyone come across this before?

It will kill me to go back to the stock boost.

Has anyone else looked into this area re insurance etc and is there anything else that they could be able to void our insurance on???

[JimX]

Boost controllers do change emissions, but you still may be within the legal limits even with increased boost. If you are that worried then book your car in for a test at the RTA.

It's not so much the boost controller itself that is illegal, but the potential increased emissions it creates. I think you should be ok though, a guy here (I forget his name) recently said that he had a gutted cat and it still passed the emissions test.

[franks]

yep, afaik, if you change any part of the intake or exhaust you are potentially in breach of epa standards thus deeming your car unroadworthy by the RTA & defectable by the police.

finish your mods, get an engineers certificate and live without fear of defect fines.

[R31Nismoid]

engineers doesn't cover EPA.

they are separate.

[franks]

to engineer an aftermarket air filter for instance, dont they have to take it to the epa and get it tested? epa doesnt give out certificates?

[s15silvia]

has anyone here managed to get their skylines engineered for these sort of mods at an RTA guy? and visited the epa and gone through the emissions testing?

[R31Nismoid]

the EPA i belive give out a plate.

now i'm not 100% sure on this... this is JUST MY understanding (before someone comes along and tell me i'm totally wrong)

Engineers

Like diffs... tailshafts... power upgrades vs brake's etc.etc.

For instance, can the body handle the 400rwkw, has the chassis been strenghened and all that jazz. All the mechanical side of the equation and ADR's. They dont care about EPA i believe.

EPA

That's the EPA bit. is the hitch.

To make a car fully compliant with aftermarket ECU's big turbos/cooler/pod/exhaust noise/extractors etc etc.

Then you have to go through the FULL EPA test, to comply with the ADR's in this area.

Now my understanding is that test is the same as what they put the new cars through.

All sorts of emission testing etc etc.

(this is where it hurts) This test costs approx $2500 and if you fail there is NO refund.

So it's something that's a fair bit of work and you need to have the car running A1.

Now like i said.

This is what i have been told by various people and i've put bits together to come up with the above.

I maybe ill informed, if i am then no doubt someone will correct me

[Guest RedLineGTR]

sounds interesting..

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by RedLineGTR

sounds interesting..

u always say something like that

Humbla

y do u really care about epa or cops?? *** them both, its your car do what u like with it!! If it was up to the cops and epa we would all be driving around stock 1.5 litre 4 cyclinders which only to a top speed of 100 km/h.

[SKYL9]

Originally posted by Humbla

Have a Turbodumb bleed valve set at 10lbs and works real good.

it shouldnt change anything as a stock 33 runs 10psi after 5k

[Zombie]

Stock R33 runs 7psi after 5k, and something like 5psi before 5k

Adam

[SKYL9]

Originally posted by Zombie

Stock R33 runs 7psi after 5k, and something like 5psi before 5k

you sure? i know mine was stock as a rock when i got it and i had it put on a dyno and they hooked up a boost gauge and it got up to an exact 10psi and i know of others 33 that was there on the day with no boost controller got to 10psi too

[hippy]

zombie is right!

[R31Nismoid]

skyl9

did you have and exhaust?

if so then that's the reason. The boost rises to approx 9psi once you do a full 3".

[SKYL9]

Originally posted by R31Nismoid

skyl9

did you have and exhaust?

if so then that's the reason. The boost rises to approx 9psi once you do a full 3".

no my car was stock.. part from a hks bov and a k&n flat filter

and the other 33 was stock part from hks bov and a cat back exhaust