I Am 17 On My P's What Car Would Be Best For Me?

[R31 drift pig]

My First car was a 1966 Mk 1 cortina 220 two door..... with a 220 hp Pinto/1600 twin cam hybrid in it, twin webbers, Spax adj. race sus, Capri V6GT brakes, superlights etc, Was built along the mines of my dads Appendix J racecar (66MK1 Lotus), and Im glad that was my first car... as I learnt NOT what to do.

My dad and me built it over 6 months, he tought me how to drive in it..... and I stacked it the first night out on my P's LOL.

From experience.... get a R31/KE70/AE86 or something like that, cheap, still can be modded, and still capable of being driven hard, learn how to handle it, then step up to something more powerful, or continue to mod that. (I have a Rb20DET 31, be making 250kw's when the TD06 and injectors go in and tuned)

There's a S3 RB30 5 speed 31 for sale on the 31 skyline club for $1500, add $2500 for full S13/R32 coilover and brake conversion/swaybars/panhard/bushes/tower bar/castor arms etc, get some decent wheels for it, Extractors and exhaust and clutch, spooled diff and a few other odds and ends...

Be a very competent car in the hills, can go out skidding, yet still drive it to work every day, not get hassled by the 5-0, cheap insurance, parts are plentiful and cheap, and can drop a turbo driveline with VERY minimal hassle when you want some more grunt.

Edited March 24, 2008 by R31 drift pig

[Hillzy]

Get an E30 BMW. That was my second car. Super good handling for a stock car, quickish and comfortable. Don't waste your money on a skyline or something like that because you'll probably crash it showing off to your mates.

[scandyflick]

clearly he needs a 400kw gtr. driving experience is overrated.

seriously though, non turbo manual s13, ke70, or something along those lines, dont need a turbo to have fun.

[R31 drift pig]

seriously though, non turbo manual s13, ke70

Or put a SR20DE into a KE70 LOL....

Im still thinking about it

[scandyflick]

haha, doooeeet

[kralster]

^^ here here 17 does not = enough experience to be a save competent driver

Lewis Hamilton could probably drive fairly well at 17.

All any of you do on here is stereotype.

ZOMFG he will get killed in teh turbo and crashzor it.

A lot of you are going on about how you crashed your first car and "thrashed" it. I sure as hell didn't crash or trash my first car.

I couldn't afford too. Any my skill level had nothing to do with.

I do agree if he wants a nice imported silvia, skyline, etc, etc NA would be the way to go. That way insurance will be nice and cheap.

But other than that do what ever the hell you want.

[frogstomp_R31]

go a r31 there slow enough till ya change the donk

[Sambo33]

Lewis Hamilton could probably drive fairly well at 17.

All any of you do on here is stereotype.

ZOMFG he will get killed in teh turbo and crashzor it.

A lot of you are going on about how you crashed your first car and "thrashed" it. I sure as hell didn't crash or trash my first car.

I couldn't afford too. Any my skill level had nothing to do with.

I do agree if he wants a nice imported silvia, skyline, etc, etc NA would be the way to go. That way insurance will be nice and cheap.

But other than that do what ever the hell you want.

kralster, he asked for opinions on what would be the best car for a 17yo on p plates, he didnt particularly ask for 1 persons opinion.

[kralster]

Yes but more than half the responses are

"don't get a turbo you'll crash"

Which i think is silly.

[gtrkiet]

agreed with kralster

[Hillzy]

My opinion is if you need help selecting a car chances are you don't have much automotive knowledge. And, again in my opinion, a person with limited automotive knowledge would be more likely to thrash, disrespect and/or crash their newly acquired turbo jap car because they simply don't understand the theory behind driving fast with safety and general car care.

Countless times I have read knobs posting things such "why doesn't my car go any higher than 7000rpm? I have it flat but it doesn't go any higher?". That's just one example of a noob with a skyline.

I support the people who are encouraging this guy to start small. It'll give him a chance to learn how to drive and look after a car.

[shy_s6]

experience is the key.... im not going to say much more because ppl will just sook.

get a cheaper car, n/a sil ect then get some 'road time' it will suprise you how quickly things can happen even in slower vehicles.

that is all.

[Sambo33]

Yes but more than half the responses are

"don't get a turbo you'll crash"

Which i think is silly.

i can see your point, it does come down to the individual.

it just seems that many overconfident young lads get in these cars, with little to no driving experience and come undone.

ill admit that holding 3rd gear sideways in my little gemini was not a smart move, it was raining and on an open wheel diff, and i paid the price bigtime.

it was a lesson learnt that day of what a car is capable of.

[Jackman GTS4]

I was asking myself this same exact question when i first bought my car. NA or Turbo? I was lucky enough to not have parents etc influencing my decision I got exactly what I chose not what someone else had chosen for me. I went with NA GTS4 and I think you should too.

Even though i knew a GTST would be a heap more fun and power I ended up buying a S2 33 GTS4. And for a first car it has been great to me, it goes very well and handles better then most other cars that I have driven. Apart from other skylines ofcourse.

Now of course there are days where I think I should have got the Turbo, but everytime I think that, I then think about the close calls that I have had on the road in early days of driving - and I have had a few, i wont lie. You cant help the fact that when you have a brand new car and on top of that your first car. You want to have fun in it. Im not saying I was breaking the law everytime I got behind the wheel but I was driving a lot and was experimenting with the car and getting used to what it could do as opposed to the car that I learnt to drive in.

What im trying to say is that those close calls I had while driving my NA would have been accidents had I made the decision to get a Turbo - simply because when you put your foot down (and believe me YOU WILL) the GTS4 will only go so far + it has AWD for added stability and assistance when you go a bit to hard on the Gas. The Turbo on the other hand In my opinion takes a lot more skill and experience to drive especially because of the extra power that it posseses and not to mention the fact that it is RWD making it that much more of a handful for a novice driver.

I am close to getting off my P's and when I do I will definitely get a GTST or maybe even a GTR if I can afford it - as a SECOND car because you have no idea about what you DON'T know about driving until you actually start driving by yourself on the roads. There will be no one to give you advice and all decision making and judgement calls about whats on the road in front of you will left upto you and only you. Its quite a full on change when you are used to having someone guide you every step of the way.

I sincerely believe that going NA is the right decision for you and may indirectly save your life - its definitely saved mine.

[Madaz]

sorry Krastler not all people are as sensible as you

Yes but more than half the responses are

"don't get a turbo you'll crash"

Which i think is silly.

says the man who lost his license for doing 260 down pt wakefield rd

agreed with kralster

[cruzin33]

Buy my daily car, its s13.5 sr20det auto. vertex kit is fitted on now, all it needs is paint. 12k

Il give you 6grand

[Dohmar]

sorry Krastler not all people are as sensible as you

says the man who lost his license for doing 260 down pt wakefield rd

Hahah thats funny as. And yeah, the comparison is pretty weak, Lewis Hamilton was driving way before most, while learning on a racetrack where they have such things as safety crews.... Experience is everything, and if I can write off an R31 doing 20kph, then anything is possible in a turbo; difference is, it was much much cheaper to buy, maintain, repair and insure, and it had more than enough power for me to take 4 people around the city, with luggage, and get decent range on the highway. It was also on LPG so it was economical as hell. Having only got my GTR last year when I was 28, and it being my first turbo, I can agree that its a whole different ball park to a NA. The extra power is unforgiving if you havent got the experience to use it.

That said, the GTS-4 NA would be a great car to have, but its 3-4 times the cost of an aussie R31.... AE87's and the pulsars are good buys too.... do your health and wallet a favour, and get a NA car as your first one. Because you >will< end up breaking something, even if you drive like a granny.

-D

[Turbz_13]

get a R32 GTS-4, its got a bit of balls. and the safety of the attessa awd system

[nisskid]

experience is the key....

id say attitude is the key, not experience.

as i mentioned, i stepped straight into a turbo car, i took it easy until i felt competent with the car, i didnt get in over my head too early and i didnt have any real issues. i didnt have much experience, but i think i had the right attitude.

[Hillzy]

id say attitude is the key, not experience.

as i mentioned, i stepped straight into a turbo car, i took it easy until i felt competent with the car, i didnt get in over my head too early and i didnt have any real issues. i didnt have much experience, but i think i had the right attitude.

And what's the crash count now stewy? lol