Need Advice On Tune

[Tree Fitty]

Hey guys. I just got my first skyline about a month ago and i'm loving it. I've been lurking here for ages trying to learn as much as i can and i've decided to start some mods on my R32.

I've already got a split dump with 3 inch exhaust and a pod filter and fmic with manual boost controller. I want to upgrade to a bosch 040 (or similar) fuel pump and also an rb25 turbo.

My question is about tuning? I've gotten a quote for $1300-1500 for a remap. Is this because you can't do live tuning on the stock ECU or something? It seems pretty expensive, and for that price i could nearly get an aftermarket ecu and have that tuned couldn't i?

Is nistune a better option?

I'm sure you are sick of hearing this noob question but i searched and couldn't find anything specific to prices and good tuners near the Penrith/Western Sydney area (i don't mind a drive to find a good place).

So as far as my engine management options are, what do you recommend?

[cosmokram3r]

Seems like the consensus is that the PowerFC is the best way to go for aftermarket ECU.. but hmmm that sounds really expensive for a re-map but i guess it depends where you go

[FATAZZ]

who quoted you $1300-$1500 for a remap?

[Tree Fitty]

I was quoted 2 days work aswell. So it's probably a long and arduous task to remap an ECU. Hence the price.

Just been looking around... would i save myself some money if i bought a nistune and installed it myself, then took it to a tuner to get it programmed?

who quoted you $1300-$1500 for a remap?

Silverwater Auto Services (SAS)

Edited March 31, 2008 by Tree Fitty

[R338OY]

I've been quoted $350 for a remap.

If you are in the market for it a power FC is a good option. But if you choose a remap ask around for prices!

You could also go piggyback, SAFCII/NEO for example.

For tuners in Western Sydney i recommend Unigroup or CRD.

[BHDave]

I was quoted 2 days work aswell. So it's probably a long and arduous task to remap an ECU. Hence the price.

Just been looking around... would i save myself some money if i bought a nistune and installed it myself, then took it to a tuner to get it programmed?

it's not. it's an hour install at most and then a tune.

Link 3 Sydney workshops who can do the job are listed. All have a good rep. I'd be talking to all 3 before making a decision.

edit: SAS used to be your only option about 5 years ago. Not anymore. They still try to charge like they have a monopoly

Edited March 31, 2008 by BHDave

[Tree Fitty]

Thanks alot guys. I'd already spoken to unigroup but they don't do remaps unfortunately, only nistune.

I'll hit up the other two and hopefully be in business.

Cheers

it's not. it's an hour install at most and then a tune.

Lol... So what were they gonna do with my car for 2 days?

Edited March 31, 2008 by Tree Fitty

[Sydneykid]

What the differecne between "nistune" and a "remap"?

I thought "nistune" was a brand of remapping.

Cheers

Gary

[BHDave]

nistune uses a daughter board, as opposed to a remapped chip in the stock location

[limpus]

Regardless...1300-1500 for a remap is madness...i'd go back and shove the ecu up his $^#%....

A remap however will work well on the rb20...heaps of guys here run them and we all get decent results...

[Sydneykid]

nistune uses a daughter board, as opposed to a remapped chip in the stock location

I have seen plenty of remaps with daughter boards.

Cheers

Gary

[Tree Fitty]

I've been quoted for "fitment and tune" by everyone so far so i'm guessing they are using daughter boards.

[TTT]

The mods you are doing to your car are the exact same things that everyone else does.

Contact 2 users from these forums for their thoughts and prices.

TOSHI

CEF11E

[Grunter]

Hi mate I just got a remap tune and the cam gears dialled in

by Dr Drift and the results are f@#king awesome and cost

no where near the $1300 -$1500 you were quoted.He is well

worth the drive down there or can do a mail order chip.He

would be 1 of the hand full of people that I would let touch

my car he is that good.I choice to go this path as it still

uses a lot of the features of the std computer and cheaper

than a PFC.If you live in the sydney area I can let you

have a drive if you like

[ArBe20]

+1 for Dr Drift, especially with rb20 remaps.

[Tree Fitty]

Hi mate I just got a remap tune and the cam gears dialled in

by Dr Drift and the results are f@#king awesome and cost

no where near the $1300 -$1500 you were quoted.He is well

worth the drive down there or can do a mail order chip.He

would be 1 of the hand full of people that I would let touch

my car he is that good.I choice to go this path as it still

uses a lot of the features of the std computer and cheaper

than a PFC.If you live in the sydney area I can let you

have a drive if you like

I've heard nothing but rave reviews about people seeing Dr. Drift. But the 16 hours round trip kinda put it out of options. Interested in the possibility of a mail order chip. How would that work? Would it be accurate enough even tho he's never seen or touched my car?

The mods you are doing to your car are the exact same things that everyone else does.

Contact 2 users from these forums for their thoughts and prices.

TOSHI

CEF11E

Thanks man i'll hit them up.

[Grunter]

With my car I wanted it done on the dyno and he said that he only gained an extra handfull of kws

difference from the mail order chip they are that good from the word go.I can't recommend him

highly enough.Better fuel econemy, responce, killer midrange,throttle control,

[dwest]

My question is about tuning? I've gotten a quote for $1300-1500 for a remap. Is this because you can't do live tuning on the stock ECU or something? It seems pretty expensive, and for that price i could nearly get an aftermarket ecu and have that tuned couldn't i?

For that price get a POWER FC its better in the long run you can retune whenever you like and most competent tuners can tune it easily within precise variables for your car...

DONT YOU DARE SPEND 1300-1500 on a remap THAT WOULD BE A BIG MISTAKE get the standalone it will prove its weight in gold.

Also if you cant find a GTST power Fc you can use a GTR power Fc from a R32orR33 as long as it is D-jetro so you can bypass the maf and run it from a map sensor.

I am using one on my GTS4...

[mark_sudakov]

ive basically got the same mods on my r32. Rb25 turbo not in. I bought the CEF11E remap. Havent got it installed yet, but seems to be the cheapest way to go at only $100. Ive also bought a safc2 for a finer tune once on the dyno if needed.

Thats the way im gonna go. I guess its about how much u want to spend really.

[BHDave]

I have seen plenty of remaps with daughter boards.

Cheers

Gary

yeah, i know. Its the coilovers vs "coilovers" argument again.

But there are 2 distinct ways of achieving the same result with a stock ecu. replace the stock prom, or slap in a daughter board. I would not class a daughter board as a remap, it implies a different method.