R32 Gts-t Vs R33 Gts-t

[bloodzkull]

dude just get a 32 gtr

give your missus the excel. sell your xr6 and get a gtr.

[ORIGIN]

R32 gtst slow aye? i dont think so, all thats done to my 32 is exhaust, fmic 12psi and adjusty cam gears... and im neck and neck with standard xr6t utes and thats off the line aswell... (have raced both manual and auto xr6ts same result) my mates r32 gtst with exact same mods as mine also pulls neck and neck with them... it was a real surprise because i thought i would get left behind... the only one that beat me had an exhaust+screamer and pulled a qtr of a car length so still not that great... dont be too quick to bag out the old rb20

[Roy]

roy is it?

thats quite surprising u can go around a track alot faster then Matts car, especially it being internally standard....quite curious do u mind directing me to some more in depth specs of your car? it cant be pushing more then 250rwkw......or is it?

Its got Tein RA coil overs, Sydneykid swaybars, a full TD06 setup with PFc and GTR injectors. Bracket so that i can run 324mm brakes with the std caliper, and HKS intercooler and exhaust. Thats about it, all from an internally std RB20 that at 16psi makes 234rwkws and at 19psi makes 260rwkws.

but come on roy.....be honest here.....you really think the rb20 is any better then its successors?

In regards i think it is better. They are cheap to replace. They are possibly the strongest of any factory RB, and they are not a headache with rego unlike if i had done an engine transplant. The trade off is they need more boost and revs to make the same power as the bigger RBs, but from a certain point they will never make the same power

you might be able to beat rays s15 or matts r34....but if i gave u a r33 or a r34.....im sure ull be even better.

They are heavier and the pistons in the Rb25 dont take the boost and detonation that the std RB20 does, and the RB25 has weaker rods. R34s are about the same weight as R32GTRs So i doubt the same mods as i have done would make the bigger cars quicker. As they would require more power, which means more cooling, more suspension mods and more brake mods. So not really, but if done smartly the cars shoudl be quicker all things beign equal. Though they never are

but its proberly the only 1 out of a million that might be worthy of praise......

have u ever considered droppn a rb25 into your car at all?

okai okai......maybe its not as "rubbish" as wat others or myself make it out to be. but its defiently not as good as the 25

My point all along is not that they are better, but they can give great results so should not be the reason to steer clear of a particular car. They have their merits and of course shortcomings.

I have said it before., people that put RB25s in their R32s are the same people that would sleep with their wife's friends. At least with an Rb26 you can use the excuse that she was hot!

So no, never considered putting a std RB25 in my car, RB26 or hybrid engines yes. And i am not the only guy getting good results out of a std RB20. There is a guy in Perth running 12.00 flat and 290rwkws with a std RB20. one in Sydbey making 280rwkws before the car was pranged. Just because us R32 owners are cheap bastards and rarely put a turbo, good ecu and injectors on a car....doesnt mean the car doesnt respond to mods when the few that bother actually do

[lteh]

hahah this thread can go forever.

but my biased opinion says R32 definetly, its a real nice looking car and can reach 200kw with just turbo, cooler, exhaust and decent tune. for a daily much more than 200kw becomes a hassle.

i think the 32 is best because 1) i own one and 2) the way it makes u feel when u drive it, even tho it lacks down low power the engine its quite agressive when u get the revs going and can feels good to chuck around.

lol theres my 2 cents.

[GTR-32U]

R32 gtst slow aye? i dont think so, all thats done to my 32 is exhaust, fmic 12psi and adjusty cam gears... and im neck and neck with standard xr6t utes and thats off the line aswell... (have raced both manual and auto xr6ts same result) my mates r32 gtst with exact same mods as mine also pulls neck and neck with them... it was a real surprise because i thought i would get left behind... the only one that beat me had an exhaust+screamer and pulled a qtr of a car length so still not that great... dont be too quick to bag out the old rb20

very well said...one good thing about the 32s is that quite a lot have had turbo swaps while in japan..I know mine had a 2510 on it with HKS front mount when I first picked it up...Changed the exhaust later on and yes it was poor below 3000 rpm...but over 3000 it hauled...I had a couple of runs with XR6T's lower revs I was a bit off, higher revs....they struggled to stay with me...at 16 psi it really got moving...No they are not as good as an RB25 but if you are doing trackwork then I would still go the RB20...look at replacement engine costs RB20 vs RB25.....Not just that but I am led to believe the RB20 computer is a bit more flexible when performing mods...they make great cheap thrashers

[32line]

r32 punches an r33? lol ive never read something so silly in my life.

stock for stock r32 is the slowest rubbish box in the world from factory theyre what? 7 secs 0-100?

theyre 15yo+ cars and they wish they could pull those numbers

the r33 is faster and its been proven millions of times.

do the exact same mods to each car and the r32 just gets left further behind

exact same mods to a 32 and 33, and the 32 is slower? geee, reallly?????! derrr! dont hav to be a fregin scientist to firgure that one out.

evryone knows stock for stock the 33 is faster...and if u mod them in the same way ofcouse the 33 will be faster..

my 32gtst has only a few minor mods (exhaust,fmic,11psi,ecu remap) and it will get to 100 in mid 5's on crappy rear tyres...

so u may hav to mod the 32 a lil more...pfft, who cares, atleast ur in a car that looks better than the thousands of boat 33's drivin around...i see them every single day...ugly as hell itself.

they dont even get a second look, 33's just blend into the b/ground like commodores.

if u want sumthin special a nice clean 32 is the way

[GTR-32U]

32 line that is definately one fine lookin 32...what sort of wheels you got on there ? very nice indeed

[Rekin]

XR6T>R34GTT>R33GTST>bike>walking>r32GTST

dont you have another turbo to blow through your engine?

From: 150,000km r32 owner

<3

[32line]

32 line that is definately one fine lookin 32...what sort of wheels you got on there ? very nice indeed

ah cheers mate, the wheels are Lenso GT-05 18x8

[Hibino]

My R32 just has front mount, exhaust and 12psi and I've raced plenty of r33's (unknown mods) and beaten them all.

The engine's are great in R33's but the car itself fails. Put an RB25 into an R32 ftw.

R33's are ugly as too.

[krzysiu]

My R32 just has front mount, exhaust and 12psi and I've raced plenty of r33's (unknown mods) and beaten them all.

The engine's are great in R33's but the car itself fails. Put an RB25 into an R32 ftw.

R33's series 1's are ugly as too.

fixed it for u

[HotPlates]

If it's for everyday driving, and you are concerned about dropping down in power/torque too far then get the R33. The torque spread is far superior and you don't have to work as hard to make the car go. It's very flexible across the whole rev range. The interior is much nicer & generally has less wear and tear due to them being newer. If you can get your hands on a nice R33 series II you won't be disappointed.

Personally, I drove both and didn't like the lack of bottom end torque in the R32 and outdated interior. R32s can look nice, but so can most cars with the right bodykit.

Stock for stock the R33 series II performs better, has nicer interior, looks better (imo), has more potential, is a better daily and is more solid. If you are largely debating whether to get one over the other based on fuel consumption, suprisingly the fuel efficiency difference is not the largest of margins.

I'm not bagging out the R32s or RB20 for that matter. They are great cars. But just wanted to point out that every new generation has had extensive R&D performed by the manufacturer to be better than the last model/s. Just as the R34 is better than the R33. The more opinions, the more of an informed choice you can make. GL

[Roy]

Dont S2 R33s have that tacky clith interior? They do look nicer then the S1 though. And the interior, just like the exterior is very much a matter of taste as the R33 is too Camry for me. Then again teh R32 is very VN Commodore

The big thing with R33s is if you look at 10, 8 will be in good condition. With R32s the number will be more like 3 out of 10

[Basti]

fixed it for u

agreed

Dont S2 R33s have that tacky clith interior? They do look nicer then the S1 though. And the interior, just like the exterior is very much a matter of taste as the R33 is too Camry for me. Then again teh R32 is very VN Commodore

The big thing with R33s is if you look at 10, 8 will be in good condition. With R32s the number will be more like 3 out of 10

i actually prefer the series one trim. exterior wise, s2 all the wai

[HotPlates]

I don't think the style of the seats in all the Skylines through the generations (bar GTRs) are anything to rave about. But it is pretty easy to change the seats if it bothers you. Much harder to change everything else though.

I haven't heard the R33/Camry analogy before. I don't see it? I'd imagine there would be a lot of wannabe Skyline owners putting wings and kits on their Camrys if that was the case.

Both are good cars, but the R32 is a little too Vanilla Ice for me.

[krzysiu]

R32 is just old. Plain and simple. Buy an r32 and say hello to problem after problem.

[Marco-R34GTT]

My R33 gets up to 400kph in city traffic. On the highway 600kph can be achieved. All depends on how heavy your right foot is.

Edited April 14, 2008 by Marco-R34GTT

[BHDave]

Then again teh R32 is very VN Commodore

:laughing-smiley-014: nice call.

I dont know whether that makes them better or worse than an s1 r33 camry though........

This tread seems to be going no where fast.

[Roy]

My cats breath smells like cat food

[dmr]

my opinion of the R32 is: R32 with RB25DET > *

you got the style, looks and power out of a small comfortable car.

even the RB20 with stock internals, decent turbo, cams, injectors and computer will set you up nicely.

on the other hand, my opinion of the R33:

that is all.

Edited April 14, 2008 by dmr