Nismo Proto Gtx-1 2500r

[rb26s13]

"2 CARS" THAT LOOK SIMILAR BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH ONE IN THE SAME CAR - NOW I SEE WHERE YOURE COMING FROM - I THOUGHT YOU THOUGHT MY OTHER SKYLINE WAS A KEY FACTOR TO CONSIDER - NOT AT ALL - IT WAS A SERIES 2 PILE OF SHITE !! - THE 2500R "PROTOTYPE" "DEMO CAR" I BOUGHT IS A "TWEAKED" AND "FACELIFTED" GTS-25T -

there both series ones.. or should i say its a series one.. were do you get your badges? specially the omiri 450ps one.. i want a JUN 500ps one...

[d00dz]

Omori Omori...... hmmmmmmmmm I have been there!

It took us ages to find the factory, not knowing that it was actually on the omori subway line and not the JR omori line, then finally found it and majority of it was closed for refurbishment.

However the dudes there, were very friendly and despite not knowing how to speak English found an English worker there and yea very friendly.

This is the workshop:

Main door, see the left side it was all covered and being refurbished?

[malcolm]

HI THERE - SORRY BUT I ONLY TYPE IN CAPITALS !! ITS AN OLD HABIT - I REPLACED THE KNACKERED BALL BEARING TURBO WITH THE TRUST JOURNAL BUSH ONE - SIMILARY I HAD THE PLENUM FITTED - AS NISMO DONT MAKE A PLENUM FOR AN RB25 AND THE SAME FOUNDERY IN JAPAN MAKE THE TRUST AND NISMO PLENUMS I CHOSE THAT - THE IDEA THAT THE 2500R WOULD HAVE BORROWED ALOT OF THE TOUGHNESS FROM PARTS FROM THE GT-R AND THAT THERE WAS THE RB26 PLENUM IN THE BOOT - LIKEWISE WITH THE BREMBOS IT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO GET A SET RESTORED AND FITTED AS AN APPROPRIATE BRAKE UPGRADE - THE VERY MEANING OF "PROTOTYPE" IS SIMPLY "A MODEL FOR" PROTOTYPES WILL OFTEN BE MADE UP WITH BITS AND PIECES FROM ANY NUMBER OF NON GENUINE RESOURCES - THE CAR ITSELF IS A 1993 GTS-25T BUILT AS ON MERLS PRINTOUT DEC. 1993 SHOWING THE RIGHT CHASSIS AND ENGINE NUMBERS - THE SAME INFO THAT NISSAN JAPAN COMFIRMED - THERE WERE SEVERAL NISMO ENVELOPES INSIDE THE CAR ONE OF WHICH CONTAINED THE 1995 NISMO PLAQUE - AS THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN AWFUL AMOUNT OF WORK TIDYING UP THE ENGINE BAY I DIDNT SEE THE POINT OF AFFIXING IT RIGHT AWAY - I GUESS LEAVING A 1995 DATE MARK SOMEWHERE MADE SENSE TO INDICATE WHEN WORKS HAD BEEN COMPLETED - THE JAPS GO NUTS OVER STUFF LIKE THAT - I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT I THINK THAT THIS CAR SHOULD BE 100% NISMO SPEC !!?? - ABSOLUTELY NOT -JUST BECAUSE NISMO HAD IT FOR A WHILE DOESNT MEAN THAT MUCH - A LOT OF THE 2500R INFO I RECEIVED CAME DIRECT FROM NISSAN JAPAN - BEING A PROTOTYPE ANYTHING GOES REALLY - I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IT WAS AN IDEAS PLATFORM FOR A NUMBER OF POSSIBILITIES ONE BEING THE 2500R THAT SIMPLY NEVER "GOT THE LEGS" - IVE EVEN HEARD THAT THEY USED THESE "TWEAKED" CARS TO SIMPLY FERRY VIP'S ABOUT AT EXPOS AND MOTORSPORT EVENTS - IM STICKING WITH THE 2500R THEME AS THATS WHATS ON THE PLAQUES AND BADGES AND AFTER ABOUT A MILLION EMAILS AND FAXES TO MR WATANABE AT NISMO I WAS FINALLY SENT A PARCEL WITH THE 2500R ENGINE COIL COVER / HORN BUTTON / REAR WING END CAPS / FRONT AND REAR 2500R BADGES AND KEYRING SPECS WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE BLEW ME AWAY - AS FOR THE RB-X GT 1 STAMPED ON THE BLOCK IT WOULD HAVE DEFINATELY BEEN DONE BY HAND AS THE RB25 & ENGINE NO WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY MACHINE WHEN THE BLOCKS WERE PRODUCED IN THE FOUNDERY - I NOTICED ON THE Z-TUNE THAT WAS AT POWERPLAY THAT ALL ADDITIONAL STAMPING WAS ALSO DONE BY HAND - I THINK THATS ABOUT IT IM TIRED AND HEADING TO BED - PLEASE NO ONE LOSE SIGHT THAT THIS CAR IS JUST THAT A CAR ! - MY HOBBY AND NOTHING MORE - AS NO 2500R'S WERE EVER PRODUCED BY NISSAN OR NISMO AND THERES NO OTHER PROTOTYPE TO COMPARE IT AGAINST YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE IF IT IS ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE HAD ONE BEEN PRODUCED - IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'LL NEVER KNOW - IVE JUST DONE MY BEST IN FILLING IN THE GAPS AND WORKING AS CLOSE TO WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE "FACTORY SPEC" AS POSSIBLE - AFTER 7 YEARS IM EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH THE RESULT AND AM PROUD THAT IT LOOKS SO GOOD - KEEP THE QUESTIONS COMING IN HAD I KNOWN THAT THESE FORUMS WERE SO MUCH FUN I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN INTO IT SOONER - GOODNIGHT ZZZZZZZZZ - CHEERS MALCOLM

[Basti]

whoa. you leave a thread for a day or two and look what happens. some one pass the popcorn plz

[McDrifto]

WOW! thats awesome!

edit** just read the whole thread , not just the first page and now all i think is

i was starting to like it, still do, but if your truely hiding the fact its just a GTST then pfft to you. If not, congrats on an awesome ride

Edited April 22, 2008 by McDrifto

[Swiper the Fox]

can i guess the price now? can i please?

id say its worth about as much as a tidy GTS-t with some bolt-on's

$20K should do it as its only a 93model

Yes you fitted the plenum but still went to great lengths to make it appear as a prototype part, just like you did with the strut brace and other parts fitted.

Edited April 22, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[evil_weevil]

Wow!

CSI SAUNSW follows after these mesages.....

[evil_weevil]

oh, and value - yeah Im gonna say $20,990

[McDrifto]

my turn my turn my turn!

since its just a s1 gts-t with some bits added im gussing its worth $20,590. Considering s1 GTR's dont cost that much more i guess the price of it will follow the market value of a S1 GTR with decreasing incements every year

as lots of people have stated before, its not a sought after model and/or collectable therefore shouldnt be worth more than a clean s1 gtst and cheaper than a S1 GTR imo

fugging nice non the less

Edited April 22, 2008 by McDrifto

[NYTSKY]

OK it might be a genuine 2500R,but the fact that there are aftermarket parts on it will lessen the value.As it is not in original condition i would estimate around the 25k mark.Still nice though.

[malcolm]

WOW! thats awesome!

edit** just read the whole thread , not just the first page and now all i think is

i was starting to like it, still do, but if your truely hiding the fact its just a GTST then pfft to you. If not, congrats on an awesome ride

HI THERE - I LIKE IT TOO - THE FACT THAT A GTS-T WAS PULLED OFF THE PRODUCTION LINE IN 1993 AND USED A BASE MODEL FOR DEVELOPMENT HAS NEVER BEEN A SECRET - I MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO HPI THAT IF THIS INFO WASNT MADE CLEAR IN THE ARTICLE THAT I WOULDNT LET THEM RUN THE STORY - FRONT COVER OF HPI ISSUE STATES "SUPER RARE 2500R GTST" ALSO TEXT ON PAGE 78 STATES "THIS PARTICULAR GTST WAS PULLED OFF THE PRODUCTION LINE IN DEC. 1993" ALSO ON PAGE 79 IT STATES "THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT TO MALCOLM IS THAT FACTORY SPECIFICATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE APPEAL AND MOTIVATION BEHIND THE BUILD" - SO WHEN SOURCING PARTS LIKE STRUT BRACES BRAKE CALIPERS PLENUMS FUEL RAILS IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO USE PARTS THAT WOULD HAVE NATURALLY "FITTED IN" AND BEEN "RIGHT" - WHY USE AN AFTER MARKET STRUT BRACE WHEN A FACTORY NISSAN ONE DOES THE SAME JOB ? - IT ALSO STATES ON PAGE 79 "PIECES FROM THE CAR WERE MISSING FROM THE CAR WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED AND MALCOM HAD TO SOURCE THE EXACT PARTS FROM THE ORIGINAL BRIEF (FACTORY) TO TIE IT ALL TOGETHER SOME PARTS HAD TO BE MADE AND OTHERS COULD ONLY BE AS CLOSE TO FACTORY AS IS AVAILABLE" - I WOULD SAY THAT THE PLENUM FITS THAT BILL PERFECTLY AS ONE WAS NEVER MADE FOR THE GTST - HAVING AN "RB-X GT 1" BADGE ON IT IS NOT SAYING THAT ITS A NISSAN OR NISMO PART - IT ALSO STATES ON PAGE 80 "MALCOLM WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES WITHOUT WHOM THE BUILD COULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE ADVAN JUST JAP KOZO WATANABE NATE TUNE NISSAN AUSTRALIA NISSAN JAPAN NISSAN NTH AMERICA OMORI FACTORY JAPAN PERFORMANCE METAL CRAFT POWERPLAY IMPORTS RACE BRAKES SPECIALISED BRAKE AND CLUTCH UNIQUE AUTOSPORTS XCLUSIVE COLOURS - WITH ALL THESE COMPANIES HELPING ME OUT "WHATS THERE TO HIDE" - THE CAR STARTED OFF LIFE IN AN INTERESTING WAY AND ALL IVE EVER TRIED TO DO IS CONTINUE ITS JOURNEY BASED ON WHAT IVE LEARNT ABOUT ITS HISTORY - THE OPENING PARAGRAPH OF THIS THREAD STATES "HERE IS NISSANS NISMOS OMORI FACTORIES (WELL MINE ACTUALLY)..... - CHEERS MALCOLM -

[malcolm]

can i guess the price now ? can i please?

id say its worth about as much as a tidy GTS-t with some bolt-on's

$20K should do it as its only a 93model

Yes you fitted the plenum but still went to great lengths to make it appear as a prototype part, just like you did with the strut brace and other parts fitted.

HI THERE - THE PLENUM AND STRUT BRACES ARE PROTOTYPE PARTS !! - AS NO ACTUAL 2500R PLENUMS OR STRUT BRACES WERE DEVELOPED IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO CONVEY OR "INDICATE A STYLE OR LOOK" OF WHAT IS INTENDED PRIOR TO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF AN "INDIVIDUAL" PART - CHEERS MALCOLM

[NISMO]

HI THERE - THE PLENUM AND STRUT BRACES ARE PROTOTYPE PARTS !! - AS NO ACTUAL 2500R PLENUMS OR STRUT BRACES WERE DEVELOPED IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO CONVEY OR "INDICATE A STYLE OR LOOK" OF WHAT IS INTENDED PRIOR TO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF AN "INDIVIDUAL" PART - CHEERS MALCOLM

Sorry dude have read bits and pieces only, but isn't the plenum a Greddy item? If yes these are generally available to the public, how is it a prototype? Or was this the fist ever Greddy plenum?

[E_Lu-SHuN]

i dont care, i love it

its one of the cleanest built gtst's built in my eyes

[Doobs]

i dont care, i love it

its one of the cleanest built gtst's built in my eyes

Totally agree. Cleanest i've seen. All tasteful mods.

Very nice

[malcolm]

HI THERE - THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE VERY CLEAR - "AS NO GTX-1 2500R WAS EVER PRODUCED BY NISSAN THERE IS NO SUCH POSSIBILITY THAT THE WORD GENUINE HAS ANY VALIDITY WITHIN ITS NORMAL CONTEXT ON THIS TOPIC - THIS DOES NOT HOWEVER TAKE AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE SOURCED OVER THE PAST 7 YEARS IN RELATION TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTOR VEHCLE THAT IS GOT CLOSER THAN ANY OTHER MOTOR VEHICLE GOT TO BE ABLE TO GENUINELY CARRY THE 2500R THEME - CHEERS MALCOLM

[malcolm]

Sorry dude have read bits and pieces only, but isn't the plenum a Greddy item? If yes these are generally available to the public, how is it a prototype? Or was this the fist ever Greddy plenum?

HI THERE - WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING A GREDDY PLENUM RATHER THAN A PROTOTYPE CAR - THE GREDDY PLENUM GIVES A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT PLENUM STYLE OF PLENUM COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR A 2500R IF IT WAS GOING TO GO INTO PRODUCTION - CHEERS MALCOLM

[NISMO]

HI THERE - WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING A GREDDY PLENUM RATHER THAN A PROTOTYPE CAR - THE GREDDY PLENUM GIVES A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT PLENUM STYLE OF PLENUM COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR A 2500R IF IT WAS GOING TO GO INTO PRODUCTION - CHEERS MALCOLM

Thanks Malcolm,

Agree it's a clean car and can now see what you mean. The car is your vision of what it would be but it is not a Nissan prototype, not a NISMO prototype.

[evil_weevil]

[rb26s13]

HI THERE - THE PLENUM AND STRUT BRACES ARE PROTOTYPE PARTS !! - AS NO ACTUAL 2500R PLENUMS OR STRUT BRACES WERE DEVELOPED IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO CONVEY OR "INDICATE A STYLE OR LOOK" OF WHAT IS INTENDED PRIOR TO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF AN "INDIVIDUAL" PART - CHEERS MALCOLM

HI THERE - WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING A GREDDY PLENUM RATHER THAN A PROTOTYPE CAR - THE GREDDY PLENUM GIVES A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT PLENUM STYLE OF PLENUM COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR A 2500R IF IT WAS GOING TO GO INTO PRODUCTION - CHEERS MALCOLM

Edited April 23, 2008 by rb26s13