Bee*r Rev Limiters

[Sloane]

Hi

seen this item brought up in the "tailgating thread" and thought id look on youtube to see what it was.

http://www.bee-r.com/main/rev/index.html

didnt realise that device can cause the same effect as having no cat on teh exhaust.

Few questions also

1) is this harmful to the car in anyway??

2) can u turn the Bee*R rev limter on and off or is it constantly running like that untill u remove it?

3) how much do one of these cost?

4) does this give "any" performance gain watsoever or is it just for the show off factor?

thanks for you input.

[abu]

Sounds awesome but apparently blow motors

[Sloane]

Sounds awesome but apparently blow motors

so in saying that having no cat coverter is safer with the same effect am i right???

i just heard a few GTR's on a cruise i went on with that sound and the whole flame thing happening

really looks appealing to me and sounded awesome imo

[pj-33]

i reckon its sikkkkk sounds awsome. when i get my cars here im puting bee r reviiiss on them the first day i get em

Edited April 22, 2008 by pj-33

[paulr33]

its basically an anti-lag box, as the name imlpies, takes away lag on launch

it retards the timing off the planet at launch and provides spark cut launch control

so the turbo is wound up heaps, thus you get "boost" at launch

1) is this harmful to the car in anyway??

if you have a cat it will fry it, if you have cermaic exhaust wheel, it will fry it

2) can u turn the Bee*R rev limter on and off or is it constantly running like that untill u remove it?

yes it has an on/off feature

3) how much do one of these cost?

maybe $300 tops ?

4) does this give "any" performance gain watsoever or is it just for the show off factor?

it provides boost at launch rpm, if you get the power down without wheelspin it would provide good launches.

i dont like your chances in rear wheel drive, but good luck

[fluent]

i ran one before, didn't really do much cept spit flames into peoples open windscreens.

From memory...

1) probably but depends on how you use it

2) yes, just set the bee*r rev limiter an RPM higher than your standard rpm limit and it'll never hit...

3) around 200bux nowadays I think?

4) mainly flames/bangs... from the ignition cut vs fuel cut - which is apparently better...

oh and as mentioned.. launch control. although personally you i belive you run slower with it on haha

funnily enough i've just noticed my old avatar is still here showing bee*r rofl

Edited April 22, 2008 by fluent

[R34GTFOUR]

the bee R limiter is actually better for the motor just not the turbo

normal limiter kills fuel so theres still spark

bee R kills the spark but the injectors still spray in the fuel, thats why they blow big flames out the exhaust.

Its much safer for an engine to have fuel still pumped into it on the limiter than the spark still igniting with no fuel.

On a side note, they WILL destroy ceramic wheel turbos (stock turbo) and your cat will go bye bye

[Sloane]

Thanks for answering all my questions guys

cheers

PS.

so basically a safer alternative but illegal way is to remove cat converter

to get flame popping effect, which shouldnt damage the motor or turbo?

is that right?

[nizmonut]

i just finished building an engine to replace one that had been wired with a Bee*R limiter.

all its conrods were bent the bores scored and had almost three mls of carbon build up on the valves.

the engine is still on the floor of the workshop in pieces.

anyone want a boat anchor????

Edited April 22, 2008 by nizmonut

[cosmokram3r]

i just finished building an engine to replace one that had been wired with a Bee*R limiter.

all its conrods were bent the bores scored and had almost three mls of carbon build up on the valves.

the engine is still on the floor of the workshop in pieces.

Yeah but other then that how awesome is the flames and the gunshot sounds from the exhaust!

Would love one if the didnt do so much damage..

[R31Nismoid]

the bee R limiter is actually better for the motor just not the turbo

normal limiter kills fuel so theres still spark

bee R kills the spark but the injectors still spray in the fuel, thats why they blow big flames out the exhaust.

Its much safer for an engine to have fuel still pumped into it on the limiter than the spark still igniting with no fuel.

On a side note, they WILL destroy ceramic wheel turbos (stock turbo) and your cat will go bye bye

Except the fact that causing incorrect combustion situations the motor wasn’t designed for and explosions in the exhaust (that aren't meant to be there)…

Which is putting FAR more stress on the motor especially using stock parts (not just the turbo)

One or two times probably wouldn’t do much damage, but extended use overtime… I don’t wanna see the insides when its pulled down

[Dean_HR31]

The Bee R Limiter blew my forged motor. If the Bee R factory was in melbourne that built these i would've blown up the factory.

These things have blown MANY non standard/built engines netheralone stock ones!

Dont buy one. Just punch out ur cat.

[SimonR32]

The Bee R Limiter blew my forged motor. If the Bee R factory was in melbourne that built these i would've blown up the factory.

These things have blown MANY non standard/built engines netheralone stock ones!

Dont buy one. Just punch out ur cat.

bee-r limiters dont kill motors, the idiots sitting on limiter do...

if used in moderation they are fine, but excess use will hurt your motor. but then again excess use of any limiter at high revs will damage a motor

[nizmonut]

Except the fact that causing incorrect combustion situations the motor wasn't designed for and explosions in the exhaust (that aren't meant to be there)…

Which is putting FAR more stress on the motor especially using stock parts (not just the turbo)

One or two times probably wouldn't do much damage, but extended use overtime… I don't wanna see the insides when its pulled down

as i was saying above, the engine had only done 1200 kms from its last rebuild.

the limiter is the worst thing in the world for any engine, factory limiter cut's fuel,

the Bee*R limiter cuts spark and because it can be set below factory limiter it keeps pumping in the fuel and the following picture is what you end up with.

a 4500 bill from the likes of me the engine rebuilder who's laughing all the way to the bank

because people wont listen to common sense.

[DjeMz]

^^ ouch

apart from pfc or anyother aftermarket ECU/piggy back... what else can control rev limiter the way the stock ecu will?

[r33cruiser]

most drifters i have seen have them. u can hear it...and see them in the dash.

a mate has one on his 180 with stock turbo. only thing bad that has happened is he now has a gutted cat.

question to the technical ppl.

i have a gt3540 with straight thru -decat-.

is there ANY way i will damage my turbo. i know it will only effect the turbo exhaust wheel and back..

is the 3540 up to the challenge?

cheers'

ps. how do they hurt motors if it only effects the exhaust?

Edited April 23, 2008 by r33cruiser

[Bass Junky]

I'm not 100% that the BeeR blows engines if used properly.

I probably wouldn't use them on a drift car, but I would (and have) used one on a normal car.

It brings you up to boost standing still, and this doesn't blow your engine. Cant.

you can also set them up to be a flat shift control by adding a clutch switch to your setup, therefore cutting engine spark during gear changes, and hence REDUCING the load on your drive train.

Sounds wierd, but I've driven a GTR with this sort of set up (but a MOTEC) and it works brilliantly and feels more like an auto than a manual. No let up in accel at all. It's actually quite awesome to drive.

[Marco-R34GTT]

Really...

I've heard the BeeR limiter getting a lot of flak around the place... However that sounds really interesting...

[R34GTFOUR]

Except the fact that causing incorrect combustion situations the motor wasn’t designed for and explosions in the exhaust (that aren't meant to be there)…

Which is putting FAR more stress on the motor especially using stock parts (not just the turbo)

One or two times probably wouldn’t do much damage, but extended use overtime… I don’t wanna see the insides when its pulled down

i dont see how it would put more stress on the motor itself. For example, fuel sprays, theres no spark, the piston still goes down on its "power" stroke and when it goes back up it would blow most of the fuel out the exhaust valve on the exhaust stroke. Abliet there maybe some fuel vapour left over, but its just going to get more fuel on the next stroke anyway. There wont be an unexpected explosion inside the cylinder, its just that when the system ignites its next power stroke it ignites the rest of the fuel in the exhaust.

Could be wrong, but thats the way i picture it

[Gts-t]

So is the pfc pro that cuts igntion instead of fuel just as bad?

Edited April 23, 2008 by 2630GTS