Kkr 430 Potential? Will Screamer Bolt On It?

[twofortyrida]

Will this http://www.nengun.com/night-pager/extension-screamer-pipe bolt on the KKR 430? Can 300whp be made with this turbo on an rb20?

Edited April 25, 2008 by twofortyrida

[l0WRB]

no that dumpipe wont bolt up to a kkr430, there a vband .. and u should make 300rwhp on 430 at around 18psi id say...

[Simon-S14]

diff flange as stated.

that screamer looks shit tho... look how short the pipe is... great if you want your floor plan and firewall burn to shit

[twofortyrida]

Damn thats right I forgot about the v-band. That turbo is a beauty. Ben Ellis at Otomoto gave me some info I liked. He said it will start boost around 2800 and makes 10psi at 3500. He said it will happily support 300whp. $770 US shipped is really cheap for such a turbo. Looks like no screamer or open wastegate for me. Thanks for replies.

[Al]

Damn thats right I forgot about the v-band. That turbo is a beauty. Ben Ellis at Otomoto gave me some info I liked. He said it will start boost around 2800 and makes 10psi at 3500. He said it will happily support 300whp. $770 US shipped is really cheap for such a turbo. Looks like no screamer or open wastegate for me. Thanks for replies.

MAKE SURE YOU GET A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE.....

Don't believe everything a sales person tells you

In my option, they are a cheap shit turbo and are VERY laggy for the power they produce.

300whp=220wkw

You will be much better off finding a HKS GT2530 or GT2535; or a Garrett equivalent.

[twofortyrida]

True but I'm looking for a direct bolt on to factory mani. Just something that will put down 300whp efficiently. If someone can modify the stock mani to accept a wastegate that will work too. I'm not trying to spend 500+ on a mani with those power levels.

[Al]

True but I'm looking for a direct bolt on to factory mani. Just something that will put down 300whp efficiently. If someone can modify the stock mani to accept a wastegate that will work too. I'm not trying to spend 500+ on a mani with those power levels.

The turbos i mentioned are direct bolt ons, to the factory manifolds. The HKS turbos can come as a complete kit, so you don't have to spend more money on water/oil lines, dump pipes, intake pipes, fmic piping, etc.

Why go external gate on such a low power goal? Better to keep it internal, when you consider epa, defects, etc.

[esky_mad]

going with the KKR and custom or just off the shelf lines will still work out heaps cheaper than an HKS turbo kit.

alot of people dont like them because failures have been well documented. ive never used one so i cant speak from experience. a ball bearing garret unit isnt much more expensive.

a mate had the 430 on his RB20 cefiro with a microtech ecu. it was tuned very rich and made 210rwkw on 20psi. far from massive power but 220 is definetly achieveable.

theres also no reason why you cant have an external gate. alot of guys in nz use external gates on the original manifold. the 430 is more than big enough to utilise an external.

our 180 has a TD05 16g, a fairly small turbo with a monster trust external gate.....

plus external gates sound very cool.

goodluck.

[Adriano]

Damn thats right I forgot about the v-band. That turbo is a beauty. Ben Ellis at Otomoto gave me some info I liked. He said it will start boost around 2800 and makes 10psi at 3500. He said it will happily support 300whp. $770 US shipped is really cheap for such a turbo. Looks like no screamer or open wastegate for me. Thanks for replies.

I would want even that response in writing, ive tuned a few, and havnt found the response or boost threashold to be great.

[Al]

I would want even that response in writing, ive tuned a few, and havnt found the response or boost threashold to be great.

That's why i stated he needed a money back guarantee

[stolen_s15]

MAKE SURE YOU GET A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE.....

Don't believe everything a sales person tells you

In my option, they are a cheap shit turbo and are VERY laggy for the power they produce.

300whp=220wkw

You will be much better off finding a HKS GT2530 or GT2535; or a Garrett equivalent.

+1

90% or more of reports show people NOT happy with these turbos after purchase.

[twofortyrida]

+1

90% or more of reports show people NOT happy with these turbos after purchase.

Thanks for responses. I'm now considering a gt30r or a tdo6-20g(If I desired more power its there). I don't mind a bit/alot more lag(save gas off boost ). I want an external because I would trust it better than an internal and like esky_mad said it sounds cool. Nothing sounds like an external wastegate opening at 20psi. This car is just something to have a blast in. If I like it, I like whether its function or form.

Edited April 27, 2008 by twofortyrida

[sinistaGTR]

just buy a proper turbo with an external gate....

[cosmokram3r]

maybe also look at a GT28RS/GT2530/GCG RB25 High-Flow.. should get you around the power figure u want with supporting mods =]

[twofortyrida]

maybe also look at a GT28RS/GT2530/GCG RB25 High-Flow.. should get you around the power figure u want with supporting mods =]

But will they pull to 8k? Again no reason for 8k other than thats where I want to take it. I was looking at a GT3076R. Will it bolt to stock mani with a spacer? I need some more info on the tdo6-20g as well. Whats its efficiently range?

[cosmokram3r]

Not 100% sure if they pull to 8K someone else would have to clarify on that one, i just know their the most responsive/low amount of lag turbo's that are direct bolt on for an RB20 that pull hard early (no v-band required just oil/water lines would most likely need to be changed) and they reach about the 230rwkw mark. Good luck on the hunt =]

Edited April 28, 2008 by cosmokram3r

[twofortyrida]

Not 100% sure if they pull to 8K someone else would have to clarify on that one, i just know their the most responsive/low amount of lag turbo's that are direct bolt on for an RB20 that pull hard early (no v-band required just oil/water lines would most likely need to be changed) and they reach about the 230rwkw mark. Good luck on the hunt =]

Thanks man. I want to go ahead to get a turbo efficient to 20lbs or so. I want a 17-20lbs from 4000-4500 to 8k or more. My ka just would run out of steam too early for me because of rpm limitations.

[sinistaGTR]

get a gt3040 with a .63 rear housing comes on boost fair early, pulls hard all the way and good for 330rwkwish

[twofortyrida]

get a gt3040 with a .63 rear housing comes on boost fair early, pulls hard all the way and good for 330rwkwish

Sounds good to me. I love the whistle of the gt30 series too.

[Beer Baron]

do you have an SR20? either way I am running a trust T518Z on my SR20 it's currently making 226rwkw on about 16/17psi (from memory). pulls very hard and comes on very nicely. great little turbo.