Computer Piggy Back Or New Ecu

[smidy]

hi guys , just wondering about the safc piggy back for the standard ecu????? if thats how it works????? still learning it all only had car 6mths, whats the advantages or is it better to get a new ecu and which is more cost effective. car is standard now with 3" mandrel bent exhaust with high flow cat, r33 gts-t 95 series 2.

[NYTSKY]

Power FC is your best bet. You wont look back after you get one.You will be able to get the most out of each upgrade.

[smidy]

Power FC is your best bet. You wont look back after you get one.You will be able to get the most out of each upgrade.

power fc?????

[paulr33]

http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

[NYTSKY]

power fc?????

Its a stand alone engine management ECU for your car.

[smidy]

http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

cheers paul, got one for sale? lol

[paulr33]

theres quiet a few in the for sale section

i found at least 3 or 4 tonight

and theres several on ebay

the rarity i think is a bit of a flip flop, ive always been able to find one

usually they are around $1100 these days, i see no need to pay $1500 for one to suit RB25

[nuclear_skyline]

Greddy Emanage Ultimate. They make a plug and play harness for it, which means you dont have to cut any wires, literally plug in...

It has all the features of the Power FC, but as a piggy back retains the factory goodness of knock control, cold start up, etc... unless you want to change them, which there is a capacity to do...

Also, it has anti-lag and a whole host of other crap... Cheaper and newer technology then what the Power FC is...

My 2c

[D_Stirls]

Greddy Emanage Ultimate. They make a plug and play harness for it, which means you dont have to cut any wires, literally plug in...

It has all the features of the Power FC, but as a piggy back retains the factory goodness of knock control, cold start up, etc... unless you want to change them, which there is a capacity to do...

Also, it has anti-lag and a whole host of other crap... Cheaper and newer technology then what the Power FC is...

My 2c

With the price of second hand Power FC's these day's i don't know why people would use Emanage any more. It's still a signal fudger and has nothing on a full stand alone replacement ECU which these days is only about $3-400 more expensive.

It does retain the cold start (as most after market ECU's do now) and as for Knock Control if the tunes are good then there shouldn't be a need for it. At least with Power FC you can look at the hand controller and see what level of Knock you are getting.

Edited May 7, 2008 by D_stirls

[DazWah]

For the mods you only have, i would go a SAFC for the couple of hundred dollars to buy and the hour or so to tune, its your best bet for now. Also get a boost controller of some sort, when you get more mods then your best of getting your ECU remapped, then you can sell the SAFC without loosing much on it.

[nuclear_skyline]

With the price of second hand Power FC's these day's i don't know why people would use Emanage any more.

You said it second hand PFCs are still $300-400 more expensive then a brand new plug in Emanage Ultimate. I'm not saying the PFCs are bad, they're a fantastic unit and very good for tuning, but they're getting expensive and old now...

It's still a signal fudger and has nothing on a full stand alone replacement ECU which these days is only about $3-400 more expensive.

full stand alone units are great but require a crap load of work to put in... The EMU can be unplugged, which means the car returns to factory ecu settings, and put into your next pride and joy...

Your completely right about the hand controller, a definate advantage of the PFC... That is one area that needs to be updated with the EMU... Apparently with the EM Blue you can you the Profec Eo1 to display info...

Horses for courses... Both are great units, and if you look at what URAS says, and a couple of the other tuners, they'll tell you that both units can achieve the same results.

[smidy]

thank you everybody for all input, slowly getting a clearer picture on everything! the safc where do i get, where does it mount,bolt on, attach???

and cause down the track i will be doing further modifications (relentless modifications if money came by easier ) would i be best just getting a new ecu rather than remapping every modification as i proceed as then i could gain best performance,fuel economy etc right throughout mods???

thanx for all the replys, stoked to learn shitloads bout my weapon of mass destruction.........to be! and feel confident with experienced replys not mechanics pissing in the wind to you!

smidy

[nuclear_skyline]

Both the PFC and EMU will enable you to retune after further modifications.

[smidy]

with the power fc is it as easy as unplugging the standard ecu and plugging in the power fc and program from there, or is there shitloads of wiring and autoelectrical work to be done, then program?

[D_Stirls]

It's plug and play. So yes just unplug your standard ECU and plug the P/FC in. The only wire you would have to run is the lead to the hand controller but that can go anywhere. you can even put it in the glove box if you don't need the see the readings.

Edited May 7, 2008 by D_stirls

[paulr33]

with the power fc is it as easy as unplugging the standard ecu and plugging in the power fc and program from there, or is there shitloads of wiring and autoelectrical work to be done, then program?

this along with almost any question you can think of are covered in the PFC FAQ

spend about 30 minutes and read the first few topics, it will give you a feel for the unit and clear up the common concerns and questions

[smidy]

thanx again all will check out faqs