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or because link do the manufacturing for them and already had that casing designed it was cheaper to just use it than design a new one?

Seperate companies manufacture the cases as well as the chipsets...they supply their products to both Vi-pec and Link...this cuts down on design and manufacturing costs for both Link and Vi-pec. A sensible arrangement really as it makes the end product cheaper for the consumer.

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When I took the end plate off my Vi-PEC V88, the PCB is screened with G4 Extreme. I love my V88, will be grabbing a V44 shortly for my other car and I'll bet if I tried to update it with the Link G4 storm firmware it would have a good chance of working. On Link's website you can also associate Vipec ECU's with your user account there too.

so the question has come up, are they the same. I just downloaded both software from both sites and they are identical.

We were told software was different.

Also checked the price tag, seems as if the vipec is around $400 more expensive. What would be the reason for this if they are the same? they are looking like the same product so far.

what i can make of it, seems as if the links use a adaptor harness for the plug ins where the vipec has the nissan plug on the board itself.

Is that what we are paying the extra $400 ? a true plug equiv of the link? that was developed by TFelectronics?

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go through the vipec software help files, look at the screenshots and the titles used in each. All are PClink.

The suppport from Ray for the Vipec in my experience is very good, I rate that highly on my "needs" list. Similar queries that went to Link in NZ weren't as quick. I'm happy to pay the extra for the local and fast support.

go through the vipec software help files, look at the screenshots and the titles used in each. All are PClink.

The suppport from Ray for the Vipec in my experience is very good, I rate that highly on my "needs" list. Similar queries that went to Link in NZ weren't as quick. I'm happy to pay the extra for the local and fast support.

this may be the case, the extra $400 may be worth TFelectronics known good support + the direct true plug version. Seems like they are trying to hide something that may be a good thing??

okay, looks as if the difference i can see is that the TFelectronics version is a modified version which makes it a true plug in.

Here are pics, as you can see the Vipec has a Nissan plug on the board and this would mean the board would have to be totally re-designed to do this.

This one is the TF Electronics board...

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And this one is the link adaptor

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So basically, TF are doing the same with the Link as what he was doing with the Autronic plug in's.. taking a ECU and engineering it to work directly with the OEM wiring harness - take the guts out of your ecu and put this one inside it and you have a true plug in.

So yes the nissan plug in's would be a different ecu, with the same software and chip. But the other wire in jobs, like the V88 ?? Who knows.

For me, the V44 plug in. I am going to bite the bullet and say that the extra price might be worth what your getting, But stay tuned.. we will see how it goes when i get my ecu soon! Then I will make judgement for sure.

You gonna take the V44 to Yavuz for a look-see? I reckon he'd like a look at it.

yeah i will give him a call once its all going, i think he is more interested in the Gizzmo K-Mon though

from my experience, the support and customer service for me has been fantastic. Lincoln has been more than happy to answer any questions i have had and help out with any issues i have encountered. I couldn't recommend him enough to anyone looking at purchasing one in NSW.

yeah, shifting:

Original reply: nope, you are imagining things, they are different

New reply: ok, some parts come from the same vendors

Reality: they are the same except for the sticker on the case.

From the horses mouth...Ray Hall...hope this puts an end to the speculation that the Vi-PEC is a rebadged Link...its actually the other way.

The Vipec was developed to my specification and uses a lot of the features associated with the Autronic ECU. I wanted a ECU that was better then the Autronic in areas that had caused me and my dealers a lot of frustration when tuning. The Vipec works just as I requested, and as can be seen from this forum and other feedback the product is very good. If I had stayed with Autronic, and had not influenced the design of the Vipec, the Link product would not be close to the way it is now, which is a re-badged Vipec.

The Vipec comes with mine and the Vipec dealers support. If you want that support, then you have to pay for it.

Ray.

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