adznight Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have a client that I'm looking to setup 5-6 Cisco 1841 Routers for and I'd like to have the fitted WIC's failover but it's not something I have experience with. I was hoping someone here might be good with Cisco IOS as I'm only self taught. What I'm looking to do is install an 1841 with two WIC's, 1 ADSL and one SHDSL and if interface 1 go's down it will fail over to interface 2. I have experience with setting up the interfaces to work independently but there is some tricky routing involved with failing over and I'm a bit out of my depth. Has anyone done this that can help? I'm happy to pay. Cheers PS - If you don't understand what I've just said don't fill my thread with garbage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogKnight Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I understand what your trying to arrange. Its been a few years since i studied the CCNA so I would only be looking through a manual myself. Now youve got me thinking constantly about how to do this >.< Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adznight Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 Yeah it's a bit of a tricky one for me too. It's just a job I'm outsourcing not a full time position but it would be good to have a relationship with someone with a strong Cisco knowledge that we could call on for work as we sometimes have drama’s with VPN and Crypto too. If you think you can do this sort of stuff we can talk $ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 hsrp attached to the wan interface will do it both routers run hsrp between each other and send echo packets they also share a virtual ip between them if one of them doesn't respond to the echo within set timeout the other router takes over the virtual ip there's always a master and a slave in the hsrp ive got a book / pdf if you want to do it yourself, its easy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 or the other ip logical way is ip routing, so use ospf, eigrp to provide logical route redundancy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeJay Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I'm only learning cisco atm, but wouldn't a gateway of last resort do the trick? (ie default network etc) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 ah i didnt see it was on one device, well yeah just set to two gateways with different metric the lower metric being the primary route, and the secondary with the higher metric i assumed you had two routers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adznight Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 It's 50/50 one one device atm. It may just stay 1 866 and 1 837 so yes your'e right HSRP would do the trick. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3853877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 yeah if you have two routers, then HSRP is spot on will give you want you need, just make sure you set it to watch the serial or dialer/0 interface for the dsl connection and test it of course, also make sure to set the priority, dont assume defaults Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3854244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 for those interested in similar topics check out; network warrior http://www.amazon.com/Network-Warrior-Gary...7458&sr=8-1 a recommended read it covers advanced and commonly used scenarios of networking and networking concepts the pdf version is on bit torrent if you want a sneek peek, but the paper back is recommended http://www.mininova.org/tor/860447 i purchased mine from amazon.com delivered in about 1.5 weeks for $49 new Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3854266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evade Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 adz, get cisco's packet tracer. setup your routers in it, test it all out..configurations/layouts/etc and use the book resources to help you if needed! router simulation easiest way to go about it let me know if you want a copy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3854324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin911 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 what if the interface stays up but theres no ip connectivity, twill never swap over best way is to setup object tracking/EEM applet on the cisco so it automaticaly pings the default gateway every few seconds then if it fails it swaps over by itsself. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3855883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Dude Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 justin911 makes a good point - and the main point why traditional interface down detection methods won't work with ADSL. The ADSL line sync (layer2 of the OSI model) will be the main interface that the detection will work on. What you'll find is that most of the time, the PPP layer (layer 3 of the OSI model) will be the one failing, and you'll lose your PPP link - which means no traffic. This PPP fail won't trigger the interface as being down. The default gateway idea is the most logical however not always reliable. I suspect that depending on the routing protocol it might not always detect the ADSL/SHDSL fail and keep pumping out packets to the default gateway with the lowest metric which will result in lost packets and no connectivity. Not having any live cisco equipment I can't say for sure (and I don't work on the equipment on a daily basis anymore) but being a good cisco tech I did some googling and found the following: http://wiki.ittoolbox.com/index.php/Cisco_Failover This is an IOS feature (sla monitor/rtr?) that tests a particular IP address for certain criteria, ie: IP sla monitor 1 type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho your_first_test_ip source-ipaddr your_source_ip timeout 2000 threshold 2000 frequency 3 IP sla monitor schedule 1 life forever start-time now Basically the above will ping a particular IP through a particular interface and make sure it meets the SLA of 'a timeout of no longer than 2000ms' and 'no more than 3 failures in a row' or something to that effect. Look at the website above and the rest of the commands will set up the routes etc. Its a start but I don't know how useful it is - and you're right, it's probably out of your depth - heck its even out of mine and I'm a CCNA/CCDA/VOIP etc. Like i said mate i'm not working on the stuff full time anymore but I can still get my head around most of the stuff. You'll be able to find my ph number. Gimmie a call anytime - don't feel afraid to chuck me a config file either Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3857094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Dude Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 More info for you here Adz: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t552...cisco-2801.html And as Justin mentioned above, object tracking sounds like what I found above, however i havn't worked on it before: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3/1...e/dbackupx.html Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3857114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adznight Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share Posted May 13, 2008 Thanks for all the input guys Much appreciated! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218439-cisco-help-required-1841-programing/#findComment-3862436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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