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Im currently a leaner and im looking for a manual car to practice with, something that i can use on my Ps as well. Thanks to the new laws in vic with p platers not being able to drive cars with turbos my plans of getting a r32 gtst have gone down the drain :blink: . The next thing would be to get a non turbo skyline but there isnt many r32 gts's out there that are manual and i dont really want to get a r33 gts but it may have to come to that. So the only thing i can think of is to buy a r32 gtst and get a rb20de engine and throw it in to the gtst. I understand that theres problems with insurance and all that (such as if you were to de-turbo an engine but they still think its a turbo powered car) but i was just wondering if there is any problems that could occur with engine components such as the diff/gearbox or any other parts related to the engine. Would the rb20det gearbox bolt up to the na engine? If it did, would it work properly because theres no turbo engine there anymore? If i was to do the engine conversion, while the turbo engine is out i could work on building it up so when i get off my Ps it would be all ready to go. If anyone knows the possible costs of doing this (i already have a price on a rb20de) it would be greatly appreasiated because then it gives me an estimate on how much it will cost if its worth it all in the end. If all else fails does anybody know any cheap (under 10k) manual cars that would be a good/fast car to have on ur Ps? Which arnt front wheel drive and are 2 door. The only thing i can think of is a civic/lancer but im not much of a fan of them. Soz about all the different questions. Thanks in advance.

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Hey guys thanks for all the replies. Im thinking of getting a 91-93 bmx 318i or a na 300zx but im still keeping my eyes out on an na 32. Thanks again

BMW make push bikes? :thumbsup: LOL!

I thought that the R32 GTST was ok (due to power to weight ratio) is VIC.

no?

As what GTST said, I still believe you can drive a R32 GTS-T (Turbo).

Get one and keep it stock untill you off your P's then do your light mods here and there.

BMW make push bikes? :) LOL!

As what GTST said, I still believe you can drive a R32 GTS-T (Turbo).

Get one and keep it stock untill you off your P's then do your light mods here and there.

Really? i assumed that u couldnt get it because it still is a turbo powered car. And that the laws came in on july 07 i think it was so if you currently owned a r32 gtst and it was under power to weight you were still able to keep it , if not then i think u would have to sell it. Maybe ill go to the local police station or something see if i can get some info on turbo/ power laws and if i can still have a gtst coz its under power to weight.

I thought that the R32 GTST was ok (due to power to weight ratio) is VIC.

no?

As what GTST said, I still believe you can drive a R32 GTS-T (Turbo).

Get one and keep it stock untill you off your P's then do your light mods here and there.

P-Platers are banned from ALL turbo cars and v8's

The OLD P-Plate law (125kw/tonne) had the r32 gtst in a grey area which made it slip through the system.

As you are on your Learners you are on the NEW P-Plate law and are banned from any v8's, turbo's and selected v6's (refer to vicroads website)

Really? i assumed that u couldnt get it because it still is a turbo powered car. And that the laws came in on july 07 i think it was so if you currently owned a r32 gtst and it was under power to weight you were still able to keep it , if not then i think u would have to sell it. Maybe ill go to the local police station or something see if i can get some info on turbo/ power laws and if i can still have a gtst coz its under power to weight.

Yeah thats probley the best, I only heard about it. Pretty much word by mouth.

P-Platers are banned from ALL turbo cars and v8's

The OLD P-Plate law (125kw/tonne) had the r32 gtst in a grey area which made it slip through the system.

As you are on your Learners you are on the NEW P-Plate law and are banned from any v8's, turbo's and selected v6's (refer to vicroads website)

Ah dammit!

So R32JET, you either sell it or keep it for those 3 years or however long till you get off your L's then drive it...

Damn :P oh well. Im still thinking of getting a na 300zx coz they look not bad and still have a bit of power in em for a non turbo car, maybe a na subaru imprezza (love the sound, not as good as a rb though lol) or quite possibly a bmw 318i (manual, na, 1.8l) can look not bad if you do the right mods. Maybe ill do that then when i get off my ps buy an r32 gtr or r34 gt-t depending on what the price is in the future. Thanks for clarifying all that guys.

For gods sake - how are people still posting invalid information 6-12 months on i'll never know

technically as the car came out with a turbo on it thats the classification used for p plate drivers so legally you still would NOT be able to drive it

First post perfectly answered the P Plate/turbo ruling.

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