Im In Trouble Need Help

[Sass]

bs are you guys serious? can anyone confirm this?

if this really is true why do ppl bother opening there bonnet

very doubtful

Road Safety Act 1986

13 Power to inspect motor vehicles and trailers

(1) An authorised officer for the purposes of this section or a member of the police force may at any reasonable time inspect a motor vehicle or trailer which is being used on a highway if the officer or member believes on reasonable grounds that—

(a) the driver of the motor vehicle is not complying with this Act or the regulations in driving a motor vehicle of that kind; or

(b) the motor vehicle or trailer does not comply with this Act or the regulations.

(4) An inspection may include any tests which the inspecting officer or member of the police force decides to be appropriate.

(5) A person who refuses or fails—

(a) to allow a motor vehicle or trailer to be inspected when required under this section; or

(b) to produce a motor vehicle or trailer for inspection at the place specified in a notice within 7 days after service of the notice on that person—

is guilty of an offence.

Penalty: 5 penalty units.

[Ruffels]

Your car does not technically have a chassis, it's a mono-coque shell design. The entire shell works as a chassis, that is why it's considered "modifying the chassis". You've cut a hole in a "crumple zone" thus lessening the integrity of the chassis (shell), Regardless of airbag or no airbag It should not be done.

i fully understand and agree with what you are saying to an extent, however what about when cars are "modified" by an accident, and arent written off, rather just put on a chassis jig and straightened again... the original structual intergrity is not fully restored it has been crushed, weakened and then just pulled straight (well straight if they are a good panel beater)

are these safe, i think a detailed inspection and testing by an appropriatly qualified engineer could determine this, so why can't the same be done for a neat circular hole cut in a sil panel?

i appreciate police cracking down on unsafe vehicles, they are not doing this for fun!

rather i question the vehicles they are cracking down on! i find that a rusty old corona with more rust then metal, bog falling out from prior accidents and ball joints and tie rod ends about to fall apart far more unsafe then a tidy skyline with a neat circular hole cut in a panel that does not apear to be a major structual piece in the front end of the car.

but you wouldnt want to upset the little old grannies driving thier corona now, would you?

and its allready been discussed that the airbag sensor is not at the front of the vehicle, so whats stopping a massive frontal accident setting off an airbag sensor just because a hole has been cut? it doesnt make sense, as for crumple zones, they mearly act as a way to lengthen the time period of the impact so the force can be spread out, in hope of preventing death or serious injury through a massively sudden impact!

wouldnt a circular hole and alluminium pipe crush just as well?

[depalma-bcnr33]

Correct , by law, officers are not allowed to force you or physically touch your car, i.e. open up your bonnet etc or take pictures of it without your consent - but I know how you felt, you were nervous and in the moment. I suggest you speak to Vicroads and do all that you can to get this cleared up asap, as I know getting an import registered nowadays is harder than before.

thats not true.. police are allowed to determine if a vehicle is roadworthy by all reaosnable means - so if that means popping you bonnet etc thats legal - says my criminal law lecturer mirko bargaric who is also mokbels x-lawyer

[R31Nismoid]

Better to cop the defect for a inoperable bonnet latch in some cases

[Astro Bear]

Better to cop the defect for a inoperable bonnet latch in some cases

Haha! That's Gold. I wonder if anyone has tried that?

[R34NRG]

very doubtful

Road Safety Act 1986

13 Power to inspect motor vehicles and trailers

(1) An authorised officer for the purposes of this section or a member of the police force may at any reasonable time inspect a motor vehicle or trailer which is being used on a highway if the officer or member believes on reasonable grounds that—

(a) the driver of the motor vehicle is not complying with this Act or the regulations in driving a motor vehicle of that kind; or

(b) the motor vehicle or trailer does not comply with this Act or the regulations.

(4) An inspection may include any tests which the inspecting officer or member of the police force decides to be appropriate.

(5) A person who refuses or fails—

(a) to allow a motor vehicle or trailer to be inspected when required under this section; or

(b) to produce a motor vehicle or trailer for inspection at the place specified in a notice within 7 days after service of the notice on that person—

is guilty of an offence.

Penalty: 5 penalty units.

thought so.......

Better to cop the defect for a inoperable bonnet latch in some cases

thats not actually a bad idea...........although i wonder how much trouble you would get into by it.

[Gunr32]

ok guys,we have to come to a conclusion with vicroads and the result is,my cars going into panel beaters on saturday to cover up my hole in the battery tray,which means my coolers comming out and replacing it with stock one...They told me that they would not hassle me more..i actually got a good quote from a panel beater,soo lucky not to loose to much money..no engineers cert required which saved my life..

basically they are going to weld the hole back,sand it down and respray my battery tray..guys this is a bad experience and i dont uz to get done aswell..il be looking into turnflow or gettin custom pipe done..

[R34NRG]

ok guys,we have to come to a conclusion with vicroads and the result is,my cars going into panel beaters on saturday to cover up my hole in the battery tray,which means my coolers comming out and replacing it with stock one.

i guess its a 2 way street on this one.

good on ya for being able to fix it but wat a pain to get coolers in and out.

it wakes up a few of us guys who are running holes under the batt tray for cooler pipes. makes you want a gtr more and more

gl with the rest of it buddy

[CrispyFries]

and its allready been discussed that the airbag sensor is not at the front of the vehicle, so whats stopping a massive frontal accident setting off an airbag sensor just because a hole has been cut? it doesnt make sense, as for crumple zones, they mearly act as a way to lengthen the time period of the impact so the force can be spread out, in hope of preventing death or serious injury through a massively sudden impact!

wouldnt a circular hole and alluminium pipe crush just as well?

It doesn't matter where the sensor is, in fact it makes more sense that it's as close to the passengers as possible as it's measuring the deceleration of the passenger compartment. By cutting a hole in the crumple zone there will be a change in the way the portion of car behind the crumple zones decelerates, potentially causing the airbag not to trigger in a situation where it otherwise should have... I wouldn't want to sign off on something like that

Note: not saying this doesn't also apply to repaired vehicles...

[Russman]

Speaking of pulsars. Anyone know if you can put an NA engine into a turbo car and drive it on your p's? I have a mate about to get his licence and he loves the GTIR pulsars. Could he put the NA SR into it and drive it like that on his p's or is it still classified as a turbo because it originally was?

[JVP]

f*kKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ur gone mate.

i dont know if the rest of SAU remembers this but this same shit happened to me about my cooler.

said that it might interfere with my airbags and that the car needed to be crash tested.

i went to like 4-5diff vicroad offices to clear this thing and was turned down. engineers didnt wanna touch it. but i ran into some luck with a buddy at vic roads hooked me up.

i say good luck buddy, the only way i see u gettn out of this is emoving the cooler and welding up that hole u cut.

its a pain i know but might be the only way.

cheers

wouldnt give him some help........

[Gunr32]

cars cleared..glad its back on the road guys,

thanks for the help

[eddieeeee-ro]

Better to cop the defect for a inoperable bonnet latch in some cases

a mate did that cpl years back, broke the latch when the cop asked him to open the bonnet lol.

[Gts-t]

Hey ash,

with your car having a rb26 in it i presume you have had to cut this hole also, or does the gts-r have one there from factory?

cheers

Edited June 4, 2008 by 2630GTS

[R31Nismoid]

Ive got mine all in my Gallery (if you want to see the and piping etc)

My I/C is in the factory spot, and i dont have airbags... so we chopped right behind the headlights.

You'll see what i mean in the pics, shortest cooler piping ive seen on a skyline for road-spec

[nitestalkr]

Speaking of pulsars. Anyone know if you can put an NA engine into a turbo car and drive it on your p's? I have a mate about to get his licence and he loves the GTIR pulsars. Could he put the NA SR into it and drive it like that on his p's or is it still classified as a turbo because it originally was?

buy a gti pulsar.. is a gtir with an NA SR20.. would have to upgrade the bonnet aswell as it only comes with a standard n14 bonnet..

anyhow.. back on topic..

[R31Nismoid]

Speaking of pulsars. Anyone know if you can put an NA engine into a turbo car and drive it on your p's? I have a mate about to get his licence and he loves the GTIR pulsars. Could he put the NA SR into it and drive it like that on his p's or is it still classified as a turbo because it originally was?

nup

car came out build plate as turbo so law wont allow

[linedup33]

hey didnt want to start up a new thread - just wanted to know if the car doesn't come standard with an airbag, can u still get defected for the hole cut under the washer bottle for the cooler pipe?

thanks in advance.

[linedup33]

anyone?

[R31Nismoid]

If it didnt come with an airbag from the FACTORY, then no problem.

If you purchased the car and it didnt have an airbag, that doesnt mean anything however.

Its the as is - factory spec that the ruling is draw upon