Duncan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I tell you what, there is a guaranteed 3-5 seconds more in that lap with a specialist ring driver. it was most certainly not a perfect lap Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3918419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I tell you what, there is a guaranteed 3-5 seconds more in that lap with a specialist ring driver. it was most certainly not a perfect lap i agree there are some parts he was scratching his nuts. then his chin, and back to his nuts again. and in them bits i am usually flat out on the ps2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3918630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I tell you what, there is a guaranteed 3-5 seconds more in that lap with a specialist ring driver. it was most certainly not a perfect lap Wasn't going to come out and say it, but i totally agree. There were several corners that he took casually, and some where he hammered it. i agree there are some parts he was scratching his nuts. then his chin, and back to his nuts again.and in them bits i am usually flat out on the ps2 He annoyed me a little. At times the driver didn't seem to be really focused (on the nut-scratching bits). On the final straight he was looking at what appeared to be a timer, on the passenger side, he might as well have reclined and pulled out an Extra Dry. Either way, the time says it all. Great run. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3918717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 hahah I'm not saying he's a neville out for a sunday drive, he drove very well. But some of the lap times we are comparing it to are done by people with enourmous experience at that track - and it would be the hardest track in the world to learn. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3919073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS-25T Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Time to get that lady that did a 10min lap in the transit van off top gear into a GTR me thinks! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3919086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 The ring is such an interesting one. The guy that runs this company (Theo) - http://www.rent-racecar.de/gb/ - is a guy who I met and races Porkas around this track and he took me for a hot lap around the track and I damn near pooed my pants (and that would have been about a 9 min lap)! Now one of the things I found interesting was that he said he has done over 4,000 laps of the ring and yet he says he still learns something new everytime he goes out there. But then he knew it bloody well in my eyes. Now I only did 5 laps and only 2 of those were in the dry but what I did learn about the place in real life (compared to playstation laps) is a lot of it flows predictably and yet those "interesting" and difficult spots were the ones you very quickly remember for the next time you went around. So I actually reckon within 1 day you could have the track fairly well nutted and Theo agrees with me. That said I just can't imagine what doing a 7.29s lap must be like. It is so ridiculously fast. To do that time it means the average speed was around 166km/hr. Now that is close to what the V8 Supercars average at Phillip Island which is the fastest track in Australia (Hell its the fastest average speed track on the MotoGP calander. But the V8 Lap record for PI is an avergae speed of 171km/r. For Eastern Creek its 157km/hr) The video footage doesn't do the average speed of that place justice and 99% of the corners are blind and the track is bumpy and not overly wide. AND - there is bugger all in the way of run-off around that place if you get it wrong so complete commitment is tough. And then also consider that the rise and fall of this track is over 300m and surrounded by forrests with shadows everywhere, so you can be sure that on any given lap there will be differing levels of grip at different sections of the track. The point to all this being that even someone with 10,000+ laps under their belt I don't think is ever going to do a PERFECT lap around that place - but that anyone has done 7.29 is just..... mindblowing! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3919136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Ppl commenting on how he wasnt quite there for a few conrers, its a long bumpy track so dont believe anyone woudl ever do a perfect lap. Thing is in a car like the GTR with all the electronics you would be making less mistakes then you would in other cars. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3919568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gts-4 dreamer Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 and yet the lemans cars did it in 5 minutes..... I found that INSANE! not completely the same track but with an extra pair of 90's and a 180 in there on the main straight.. as if that wouldn't test the living end of your brakes. 100% commitment to not care if you drop the car your running into a fence.. that same car that you trust to do all the stuff you need it to. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3920285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 and yet the lemans cars did it in 5 minutes..... I found that INSANE! not completely the same track but with an extra pair of 90's and a 180 in there on the main straight.. as if that wouldn't test the living end of your brakes.100% commitment to not care if you drop the car your running into a fence.. that same car that you trust to do all the stuff you need it to. 5min, are you sure? that would repuire an average speed of 250km/h Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3920453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trism Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 f**k that last straight is epic Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3920459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline_man Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 "One Lap of America proves the R35 on circuit is a failure" The stock GTR in the One Lap of America finished ahead of ALL the stock z06's. So if the GTR was a failure, then i guess the z06's are a complete embarrassment? I tell you what, there is a guaranteed 3-5 seconds more in that lap with a specialist ring driver. it was most certainly not a perfect lap I have to disagree with you on this. Toshio Suzuki IS a specialist ring driver. He has racked up hundreds even thousands of laps on the Nurg. I doubt that another specialist driver would be able to duplicate that time, let alone beat it. The reason is that Toshio has been driving the GTR ever since it was in prototype form. He is accustomed to the way it handles and knows it like the back of his hand. You let another pro driver jump into the GTR and there is no way they will be able to extract every ounce of performance from it like Toshio has. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3920493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wogan Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 It wouldn't supprise me (and it'd make great viewing) if Jeremy Clarkson did a segment on Top Gear where they saw what a "normal person" could do the ring in, with a GTR. This lap time has created a lot of hype (as well it should), and it would be interesting to see what sort of time someone like jeremy could pull in the GTR.. That would give some indication of how much of the lap time can be attributed to the driver, and how much to the car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3920629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Every company that tests there has their 'gun' driver that sets the fastest lap times for their road cars at the Nurburgring. For Porsche, it's chief test driver and former rally ace Walter Rohrl. There wouldn't really be much to separate racing car drivers that have done 500+ laps of the place, methinks. As for n00bs- even given all day, i reckon most of us would struggle to get into the low 8 minute range given the same car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsf1 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I wonder how many of you guys that are chipping him for his average driving at places has done even a lap of the place... for real! now I know snowman has!... how about the rest of you????? I will eat my hat if there are even 10 people here who have Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 i've never even been to Germany Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsf1 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 ok.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I haven't for sure, but I have seen the next closest thing - pete (fatz) doing a lap in a diesel renault hire car, launghing like a lunatic all the way. the passenger even turned the acmera 90o after a while when they got bored lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsf1 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 nice nice nice drunken I bet fatz also took in some beverages while over there! I'm up to lap 150+ but there isnt much time for laughing!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 oh spewing I even found the thread where the video was hosted http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Nu...&hl=renault looks like we were all talking about this 2 years ago. and there are 2 more sauers in there that have done the ring so we are up to 3 so far lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I wonder how many of you guys that are chipping him for his average driving at places has done even a lap of the place...for real! now I know snowman has!... how about the rest of you????? I will eat my hat if there are even 10 people here who have i drive on it most nights of the week. i am Takumi Fujiwara Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/221811-nissan-gt-rs-729-lap-of-nordschliefe-video/page/2/#findComment-3921768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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