Bouncer Vs Patron

[LEANBAC]

i am a bouncer aswell (partime), ive delt with alot of fark heads over my time..... BUT there was NO need for what happened that night. I have i put customers to the ground more than once, in self defence but not via a punch or kick

people like him give other bouncers a bad name

[eMsta]

SAU members are turning it into NS.

hehe ruffle a few feathers

[Basti]

where do you work ap?

[LEANBAC]

where do you work ap?

use to work at a club on docklands, when i needed a few extra dollars, i havnt done it in sometime

[Interloper]

judging by the clamping pressure on the bouncers lip....id say thats about 500nm worth of force right there placed directly in that guys arse crack

GOLD! thats the funniest thing i've heard all week

[chris_r31]

i am a bouncer aswell (partime), ive delt with alot of fark heads over my time..... BUT there was NO need for what happened that night. I have i put customers to the ground more than once, in self defence but not via a punch or kick

people like him give other bouncers a bad name

will see how you can contain yourself if i spat at you more than once infront of a heap of people and your friends..

not having a dig, but eddy is not a thug lol, he just did what we all would of done to the drunk aussie clown..

when i bounce at my mates bar, i will tolirate anything to a certain point except for spitting.. that wanker could be a junkie aids carrier, no1 knows, just unfortunate eddy got photographed doin the kicking.. ROFL..

[gdogzgtr]

I believe that the bouncer has gone too far, obviously I can understand where he is coming from as I deal with the same drunken idiots also but your never justified to kick someone on the ground.

Now I don't know this bouncer but I personally have seen other boucers king hit people just for copping verbal abuse. I have even had one about to fight me and the only thing that saved me been assaulted was having my badge on me.

One of our main sayings is "The success of an operation will be judged primarily on how force is avoided or minimised"

It's much easier for me as we have OC spray which avoids alot of physical confrontation, handcuffs etc

I can guarantee if that was member of police force he would be charged and loose his job.

On a similiar note I was working in an area of our police communications Saturday night in town and the amount of fights/brawls and assaults is insane I monitored every job in metropolitan melbourne and about 90% percent of jobs were fights/assaults and at most stages of the night all police were tied up dealing with them.

There is a major lack of frontline police and I personally don't feel safe to go out in city. I grew up going out in Frankston and area's like that and never had any issues and never felt unsafe but ther is definitely a different feel/culture nowdays and it's only going to get worse if you ask me.

[cosmokram3r]

Definately that guy deserved it.. These guys didnt have any respect and were drunk looking for a fight.. Poor bouncer got unlucky to be caught on film tho.

Smash him uleh!

[some_cs_student]

Reading the comments on here things make much more sense, although the way the news report came out it looked bad.

I still don't approve of hitting someone while there done in any situation.

I've seen a few guys get bashed by a 3 bouncers on 1 patron while he was on the ground.

The bouncers were also using small batons.

Not sure what they did but its too bad something like that didn't make the news (it happened about a month ago near Flinders street station).

[Sass]

well said Graeme

i totally agree

being verbally abused is no excuse to kick a guy and kick him while he's done.

the bouncer is supposed to be a professional and not make it personal. regardless of what anyone says.

[GTR-32U]

very easy for all to criticise the guy when so very few on here have done this for a living. Everybody has that " Button " inside that if pressed the right kind of way will result in uncontrollable rage...And yes I am guilty of what the bouncer did also once.... Why? well I copped a cheap punch in the face from a guy bigger than me when I wasnt looking...Rage took over...Before I knew it I kicked the guy 6 feet across the floor...Do I regret what I did ? Yes I do....But I am only human...I have my limitations..just like that bouncer did

Edited June 4, 2008 by GTR-32U

[Modena]

whats that got to do with what i said?

i never mentioned anything bout wogs, i am one thats all

I was agreeing with you

[KURAUN]

I was agreeing with you

oh

in that case

[Modena]

lol

I love the look on the bouncer's face... "Just another ass kicking..."

The drunk guy looks like a wanker...

[GTR_STEALTH]

Yes, definetly agree that just because the Crowd Controller was verbally abused and spat on doesnt mean he is legally justified to give him an ass w00ping.

Crimes Act 1958

Section 462A.

A person may use such force not disproportionate to the objective as he believes on reasonable grounds to be necessary to prevent the commission, continuance, or completion of an indictable offence or to effect or assist in effecting the lawful arrest of a person committing or suspected of committing any offence.

In this case the patron is guilty of assault if he did indeed spit at the CC or even just threatened to do so. Also, if the patron was seen by the CC assaulting or pulling someone out the car then he can go over and stop the patron from doing so as ( i would) believe on reasonable grounds to prevent the commission of an offence against the other citizen.

However,

The CC used disproportionate force which means he too is guilty.

So as i said in my first post here; morally the patron deserved an ass w00ping but legally the CC is guilty...

[gazal]

Don't like bouncers at all, some of them anyway the power goes to their head.. Also remember one time i tried to get into the salt night club which is now close due to drugs/killing they were smart asses and try to start a fight.

[LEANBAC]

will see how you can contain yourself if i spat at you more than once infront of a heap of people and your friends..

if you spat on me, i would drag you around the back an crush your face where no one would see NO PAPERS, NO NEWS, just hospital

if you cant control your actions then, you have no place i that profession. he could of put the patron in a submission move as self defence

drunk vs sober, you just dont worry about them cause they are DRUNK + people just dont get spat on for nothing he must of said or done something

[eMsta]

snickers anyone?

[madbung]

Far too many drunken kids think it's legitimate sport to bait bouncers, they're just blokes trying to earn a dollar..No respect = no respect.

I doubt many of us would be able to endure the kind of abuse they recieve in our workplaces on a daily basis.

It's always been the same, average little man gets drunk, then somehow thinks it'd be a good idea to pick on the largest man in the room.

After being baited for an hour or so large man loses the plot, little man ends up crying and large man is labled an animal.

Behind almost every war in history is an angry little man..So for the good of mankind, short people got no reason, short people got no reason, short people got no reason....to live!

[dezz]

if you spat on me, i would drag you around the back an crush your face where no one would see NO PAPERS, NO NEWS, just hospital

if you cant control your actions then, you have no place i that profession. he could of put the patron in a submission move as self defence

drunk vs sober, you just dont worry about them cause they are DRUNK + people just dont get spat on for nothing he must of said or done something

How does dragging someone out the back and bashing them = you controlling your actions lol