Mark And Duncans R32 Build

[haw001]

Bosch 044 is rated to 330 L/hour and 520kw which is a 30% safety margin on 400kw, but hey it's your money, spend it as you like.

[Neil]

A mate of mine bought a concept Radical the other day Neil, one of the very few two seaters they used for training apparently. It was at revolution for a while.

Well thats great,,,I'm happy for him BUT I still don't have the 2nd screen I paid YOU for!!!.

Can I have it before christmas please or my sample back and my money.

Neil.

[Swiper the Fox]

Dual 044 will be overkill, but then it doesn't hurt as it just returns the excess. Last thing you want to do is run out of fuel and lean out no. 6

single 044 starts to struggle at 360-370AWKW with a 2.6ltrs torque... ive done a few and they seem to fall over in the top end at this level.

but...this is when they are mounted in tank trying to suck fuel instead of pushing it as they are designed to do.

fuel pumps are quite cheap these days, buy and sleep easy.

[Risking]

You never sent your delivery guy to pick it up Neil.

Its been sitting in the same place with the sample waiting for someone to pick it up or for the next time I was over that way to drop it off.

[Neil]

You never sent your delivery guy to pick it up Neil.

Its been sitting in the same place with the sample waiting for someone to pick it up or for the next time I was over that way to drop it off.

Okay cool,,,a phone call would have been great though.

I'll have one of my drivers pick them up Monday or Tuesday.

Neil.

[Duncan]

Poor Roy,,,if its any consolation I hate being in a car on the track with anybody.

I heard a rumour today that a certain raceworx gtr is up and running,,,no not the nugget but another one. Happy days!!!.

Neil.

this is indeed true - it was driven home today, and hopefully will have a wheel alignment next weekend. then just need to finish run in and tune and off we go again.

the nugget made some good progress today. rear subframe is in including all the good bits:

* UAS modified arm mounts (3 options per arm with better geometry from 34 instead of 32)

* Custom mounts replacing the bushes and mounting the cradle straight to the floor (about 20mm higher than standard, so roll centre is lowered by the same amount)

* Just Jap upper control arm, lower control arm, traction rod and no-cas arm. all rose joint adjustable gear

* Selby custom sway bar.

* Hubs with new bearings (yes, a jap part on this car....from Nissan)

* G4 remote canister adjustable shocks with springs

* standard rear brakes. yes we can still run 16" rims on the rear lol.

Mark will have to post the pics.

[haw001]

Yes, a very gratifying day today. The old girl now has one of the tightest rear ends in the business. Lift up her skirt and she's wearing some very pretty knickers with lots of flashy colours.

And Duncan's engine with it's brand new block and crank sounded like one of the smoothest best balanced engines I have heard after a rebuild, and I have heard a few. That may have been partially to do with the fact that it was idling @ 1500, but hey it still sounded good

[Beer Baron]

nice progress guys. the cradle looks great. the rear end stability under brakes seems to be one of the big things everyone has trouble with in 32s. they can be pretty nervous under hard braking and trail braking? forget it unless you want to 360 the thing into every corner! but I reckon with the cradle mods it should be a hell of a lot nicer and more stable.

[Kel]

Looks like you boys have been given a deadline

March 29, 2009

[Duncan]

Oh. I hope they have a round about the same time the year after

[haw001]

We can make that if we get our gearbox issues sorted.

[Neil]

GTR Sequential Six Speed Gearbox

The gearbox is designed to bolt directly to the Nissan Engine at the front and the standard Nissan transfer case at the rear.

http://www.holinger.com.au

or

http://ppggearbox.com.au

PPG seems more drag racing than circuit though.

These are the only way the travel boys. The Capri had the ppg gear-set which seemed to work great.

Neil.

[BezerkR32]

yeh i second that. its definately the best rear end ive seen since Bar 20 in Melbourne last March.

hope it all works like intended, otherwise autosalon is a go. must be a good feeling to hear the engine run. well done guys. Barons got me freeking now that every time i brake im going to go around.. lol.

nice progress guys. the cradle looks great. the rear end stability under brakes seems to be one of the big things everyone has trouble with in 32s. they can be pretty nervous under hard braking and trail braking? forget it unless you want to 360 the thing into every corner! but I reckon with the cradle mods it should be a hell of a lot nicer and more stable.

[Swiper the Fox]

yeh i second that. its definately the best rear end ive seen since Bar 20 in Melbourne last March.

hope it all works like intended, otherwise autosalon is a go. must be a good feeling to hear the engine run. well done guys. Barons got me freeking now that every time i brake im going to go around.. lol.

Luke's only negative about our Superlap set-up was the rear end stability under brakes...the car on the power was excellent, and it should have been as it was running all our drag suspension. You guys doing cradles on order? Or supplying CAD's for us to make our own?

[Neil]

Has anybody noticed in the 1st pic someone is wearing a long red dress and Japanese working boots.

Marky I know those toes god damn it. No way is that Meran's dress or am I wrong and Duncan's wearing your clothes again. Nah they are Canadian feet!!!.

Actually that has to be one from your own collection mate.

ROFLMBAO...

Neil.

[haw001]

That's my raceworx moo moo!

[unique1]

that cradle looks great, and rather expensive im just wondering what arms did u use for the hicas removal setup u run?

[Roy]

With the arm for the HICAS lock, is that a best guess or a proven.tested location to minimise bump steer?

[haw001]

It's more of a best available location on the cradle. If you wanted to just put a bolt through it, you could put it anywhere on the cradle, but as we wanted to braket it from 3 sides, this was the best location.

[Duncan]

Yeah in the end the cradle did add up to a bit, but we are confident that it will make a big difference compared to the standard setup we run in the production cars.

Most expensive bit was the modified arm mounting points but there was really no cheaper way to do it. We organised them through John at UAS who really helped with the design based on their experience with the z (same rear geometry) - and if you are wondering why John's car is 3-4 seconds a lap quicker than 2 years ago with the same power, these type of geometry mods are most of the answer. It was about 10 hours work from an experienced fabricator.

As for the rest the JJR arms (upper control, lower control, traction and no-cas) are about 200 a pair each which is very reasonable for all that gear. The lower control arm is bolt in except you need part of the standard ball joint to fit it. All the rest bolts on. Sway bar was very reasonable price from Gary at Selbys. Shocks and springs are remote cannister G4 jobbies which we will test out as a starting point

The no-cas arm is a rear toe arm from S13/S14 which has a very similar rear suspension. So similar that one of the bolt holes for it is actually on the GTR subframe. We added a bracket so that it was supported from both sides for extra strength, but it is only in that spot temporarily. Once everything is in a a good ride height is set we will do the full bump steer measurements and move the inner end of the arm up or down as required - we have a couple of cm we can go either way

As for the rear under brakes.....the worst skyline I've driven for that was my old 33 gtst it used to almost lift them right off the ground....absolutely bugger all grip back there. With heavier springs and modifications to the caster rod mounting point for less dive under brakes you can minimise that. Having said that you kind of get used to the feeling as well - the rear just likes to slide a bit on corner entry which can help make up for the mid turn understeer. Not great for tyre life but it is a heap of fun.

But the other thing which makes a hge difference to rear end stability is new bushes. 32 gtrs are coming on 20 years old and unless you have changed everything they are loose as by now. Upper control arm and traction rod inner bushes. lower control arm inner bushes. subframe bushes. swaybar mount bushes. swaybar link bushes. hicas inner tie rod end. hicas outer tie rod end. hicas ball joint. Its a long and expensive list but it makes an amazing difference to replace them all.