R33 GTST v 180SX SR20

[sumfatchin]

Ok, my cars got the full exhaust, air filter, 12psi boost etc, and this guy keeps kicking my arse at every set of lights (by alot). His car has a full exhaust and thats it...

Should i be able to beat him, is there somthing wrong with my car???

[predator]

naw.. sorry mate.. a nicely worked 180sx will kain your ass Sure he hasn't got the boost upped though?

They're only 1200kg or so.. that 200kg or so makes a big difference.

I've had a play with a few on the street... its always good fun. Standard the skyline is of course quicker, but generally put the same mods on an SR20DET powered s13 (either Silvia or 180sx) and the S13 will be fair bit quicker.

One of the reasons i am soon going to be selling my Skyline and getting one of them myself - so much cheaper and you can get similar power. Ok, sure they look cheaper, might look bit 80's style, maybe less reliable, blah, blah but don't care

[dabigbolf]

maybe its your driving.... (hehe)

Your tyres, suspension, or a few other things....

I know most S13's have rock hard suspension, plus they have the 4:11 diff ratios which is always nice.....

I dont think i'd worry too much about losing to silvias etc....

Different car. r33's are much more refined, and a better driving car all round.

If your really worried about losing, stick a nice front mount intercooler on, and you will be winning easily....

[sumfatchin]

na stock boost.... but he really kicks my arse every time.

Just wanted to check theres nothing wrong with my car....

[maximumrpm]

i have kicked 180sx with the srd0det before and have similar mods done like you champ...doesnt matter anyway you will kill him 1/4 mile and top speed anyway

[Sciby]

If you're worried about your car, go get a dyno run done. That will show you if you're not making full power, or if there's any problems with the way it's making the power. Should cost between 60-100 bucks.

Stock, you should make between 140-150rwkw or 180-200rwhp.

I've got a full exhaust, podfilter, nothing else, and I got 149.2rwkw on the last run. (.2 is important)

[RNS11Z]

all depends. its hard to compare any sr20det powered vehicle to a skyline. though i have to say when i was driving a s14a 200sx with 12psi filter + 3inch tbo back exhaust, i never lost to a skyline that was running standard turbo + computer. I have seen skylines with similar mods to 180sx and 200sx and silvia and win in a race. Although i believe both cars with similar mods, it would come down to the better driver and the car with better wheel and suspension set up. This is talking about a race from a standing start.

[AeroGrace]

Originally posted by dabigbolf

plus they have the 4:11 diff ratios which is always nice.....

i thought the R33 manuals also have 4.11 diff ratios?

[dabigbolf]

i wouldn;t know... someone with a r33 would know...

but if a s13 and a r33 are making near on the same power, i would say a s13 is gonna win, due to being lighter...

but still i'd rather a r33 with light mods than a S13 with light mods.

[Sumo]

Yeah, R33's are a bit heavier and cruisier..

Sumo

[meggala]

well my r32 with an sr20 owned an r33 the other day stock boost on my car btw

If you cant beat them join them

[Sumo]

haha, true that.... Have you put your car on a weigh bridge yet to see how the lyposuction went?

Sumo

[sumfatchin]

i Dont really care anyway, IMHO , 180's are a POS, ugly and no style....

[predator]

Depends whether u want full speed or more style and comfort.

i reckon they have do have street racer style with few visual improvements. To me a car can look ugly as shit, but if u know its gonna rip u then u have respect

[R32-GTS]

It's sad but a sr20 180sx or silvia with just boost and exhaust will quite easily beat most r33's with the same mods.

I know of numerous s13's running easy low 13's with boost , exhaust and truck intercoolers.

[rev210]

My R33 is an exeption to the rule, however there are plenty of S13's that are just as quick all the same.

[Jigga]

all the r33 gts-t vs sr20det silvia s13/s14/s15 with similar mods that i have seen race have resulted in the sr powerd silvia kicking gts-t butt, reason the silvia i belive is a purpose built sports car where as a gts-t has a 4dr sedan/family car heritage!!!! so is a comodore ss equivalent souped up family car! GTR on the other hand is a supa car thats y they suspect that the r35 GTR i gonna distance it self from the skyline family.

[sumfatchin]

but at the end of the day, if you had unlimited dollars to spend on either car, which would u go for????

ud have to be on drugs to want a 180???

[Nacho Vidal]

its all been said before, 33 is a nicer car than a 180 all round.

i had 200rwkw (fmic, ecu, zorst boost etc) and ran a mates 180 with boost zorst, FMIC, NO ECU and the thing just leaped off the line like a frog everytime, about a car length ahead of me EVERY time! once rolling it was just about dead even, with me possibly just catching him if the road were long enough. Other silvias have surprised me with only minimal mods also.

As mentioned i think its the extra weight we carry that prevents really good launches. And yes, with the same mods the s13 will run away!

Sumfatchin, i hear you, i wouldnt swap!

[hungry6]

i raced plenty of sr20s powered silvia and 180sx in my r33 gtst and i've yet seen one come close, yeah it all how u put the power to the ground and how hard ur want to cane them.